US Admits to Using Radioactive Munitions in Syria

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  1. Striped Horse

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    The last time I remember DU to have been used was in one (if not both) of the Gulf Wars.

    A member of the House of Lords told me the story years ago of a British Army compliment that had been invited to a US bash (social party) where the Brits started a fight with the Yanks. Or maybe it was the other way around. Either way it was a fight than caused embarrassment.

    Consequently, the British officer in charge was furious and the next day put the same men in charge of clearing up a DU dump without the benefit of any form of protective clothing or masks - as a punishment. What a kindly and thoughtful man he must've been. The complaint ended up in Parliament but nothing happened.

    This story seems to reflect much the same kind of group-mind: couldn't give a toss.

     
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    They look pretty young and scruffy.

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    It's entirely your choice to respond about the news team that published the story instead of the story itself.

    It's quite a Monty Pythonesque thing to do after all




     
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    How does this scruffy bunch come up with "insider" information?
     
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    It happened during BO peeps time in Office. Imagine that.


    The United States Used Depleted Uranium in Syria – …
    foreignpolicy.com/.../the-united-states-used-depleted-uranium-in-Syria

    Why Did the US Use Depleted Uranium Weapons in Syria?
    https://www.counterpunch.org/2017/02/23/why-did-the-us-use...

    The recent confirmation by the US that DU ammunition was used in two attacks in Syria in late 2015 raises a number of troubling questions. Firstly, why was.....


    Its really not insider info for them.

    The Pentagon said it wouldn’t use depleted uranium
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2017/02/16/the

    The United States Used Depleted Uranium in Syria – …
    foreignpolicy.com/.../the-united-states-used-depleted-uranium-in-syria
     
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    And they were used in the Gulf War, and nuclear weapons were used on civilian targets in the Truman administration. It’s not just Obama.
     
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    And DU was used in the Balkans during the fragmentation of Yugoslavia and Canadian Research suggested it was also used in the Afghan War.

    It seems that every time the UN tries to pass a Resolution to discuss a Moratorium on the use of DU, France GB, the Netherland and Czecho vote against it.

    It looks to me that it is only NATO nations that want to use this nasty stuff. And do.
     
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    Yet it was BO peep that allegedly had a problem with using weapons of war. Didn't he Monte?

    Btw good seeing you Bro!
     
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    Why do people act like "depleted uranium" is radioactive?(beyond the radioactivity typical in almost all heavy elements). Don't they know what "depleted" means? It is like all heavy metals toxic but that's not the same as radioactive
     
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    Howdy dude!! I never claimed that Obama was adverse to using anything. He was quite the warmonger.
     
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    Authorizing pin prick drone strikes is hardly warmongering. Especially considering he and Congress severely damaged the U.S. military. Damage which persists to this day.
     
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    Hussein, Mubarak, Gaddafi and Assad all kept a level of security as none of them allowed Islamic extremists any quarters. Bush regime changed Hussein creating a power vacuum there which Islamic extremists exploited forming the Islamic State in October of 2006. Obama supported the Muslim brotherhood in deference to Mubarak, he took out Gaddafi and made every attempt to take out Assad. His predator drone warfare (considered by many international law scholars to be illegal) was George Bush’s on steroids and he toppled the democratically elected government of Ukraine. Quite a warmonger.

    Oh, and the US has a military ten times the size of the nearest competitor. We remain the only country capable of picking our army up and delivering it anywhere in the world to wage war, we are the only global occupying force in the world with troops stationed in 140 countries and we spend 600 Billion annually doing so, not counting the trillions wasted on gratuitous wars. That’s not a defensive posture, that’s offensive.
     
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    Obama is responsible for the sequester? Nice revisionism. Perhaps you can educate me on the ways Obama damaged the military?
     
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    He didn’t damage the military.
     
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    Not to put too fine a point on it, but they were all autocratic dictators who couldn't have cared less about the rule of law.
    Mubarak hated the MB. The corrupt russian puppet government in ukraine was toppled by the people of ukraine themselves.

    I do agree that American foreign adverturism has generally been a failure. Bush couldn't have been more wrong in the aftermath of the Iraqi invasion, and even dumber to start up in AFghanistan. (I know hindsight is 20/20 but it doesn't change history).
     
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    I said he and congress. Both to blame.
     
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    To be sure, those four were dictators, but preferred to the death, destruction and chaos that has taken place in their absence.
     
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    Why?
     
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    Too bad you can't remember the fact that U-238 (which is what DU is) only has a half-life of more than 4 Billion years.
     
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    The term "half life" with regards to radioactive material is grossly misleading. It infers that the material is actually dangerous for that long. It isn't.
     
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    How's one of the writers named "PM Beers" fancy being named after something people do after work on a Friday afternoon
     
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    Good remark. Italian NBC units had to deal with depleted uranium shells in former Yugoslavia as well.

    Depleted uranium IS NOT exhausted uranium from nuclear reactor. This distinction has to be clear.

    The highest risk is chemical and it's similar to the one of lead and tungsten.

    Radioactivity is well low and only very long exposures [contacts in this case] could generate problems. As for I know [despite what also Italian press claims] military personnel is well informed and trained to act where depleted uranium is used.
     
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    Isn't that just reddit but with a spin? If you have any kind of involvement with the maintainers of this project I would really start looking at how voting-to-homepage systems have been exploited and hijacked in the past, because it's not like the openness of such a platform doesn't open up attacks from groups with sufficient coordination and means
     
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    So short? Oh well.
     
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    Oh, I don't know - just guessing...

    Maybe it's all those deaths and destruction he mentioned in the post.

    In my experience there are a whole bunch of Americans who are ferociously and fantastically blind to massive death, suffering and appalling destruction when it's carried out by them (or due to them) in far off places, but who wail and weep when similar destruction happens domestically by terrorists.

    It's a very bizarre psychological disconnect; as if the former has nothing to do with the latter.
     
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