US pushing UN to lift ban on cluster bombs, say campaigners

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  1. zulu1

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    Neither do I buy it. Even if it was the case, the widespread death of innocent civilians is the INEVITABLE CONSEQUENCE of bombing densely populated urban areas.
     
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    Here is a personal testimony.

    Anyone that can watch this, and not feel utterly ashamed at what the Zionist elites are making happen, is not human.

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0QYoGynjjc&feature=related"]American soldier "I killed innocent people" - YouTube[/ame]
     
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    They invent some BS excuse to cover that, or several, all of which are Flat Earth news, fictional and false.

    It would be entirely absurd if a 'terror group' placed a bomb on a bus, and when it killed the people on it, if they claimed 'We only intended to destroy the bus', it would provoke laughter, and so it should.

    Yet, those laughing might also wish to remain consistant, and laugh at the same principle, when it is applied to bombing densely populated civilians areas, and the excuse is used that 'the intention was not to kill the people'.

    I would guess some fantastic excuse would also be used to 'explain' things like this;


    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=houv3JPBrrM"]LEAKED American Soldiers Target Civilians and Journalist - YouTube[/ame]
     
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    Yes, you mentioned Hamas.

    Yet make no mention of other evils, as per those illustrated in the footage.

    Unless...you don't think it was Hamas using the WP, do you?
     
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    well the US can (*)(*)(*)(*) off then
     
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    Here is another reason why the old mantra that sporting US of A do not target civilians is BS.

    And, to compound their almost mental disorder of not being able to see themselves as others do, they then feel in a position to lecture others.

    Amazing.

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_GvcQTNEJE&feature=related"]A ROSA DE HIROSHIMA - YouTube[/ame]
     
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    Sorry, your conspiracy theory is what is the myth.

    Dropping bombs into a densely populated civilian area is a fallacy. Now days, a specifically selected smart bomb is targeted onto an exact location minimizing collateral damage......particularly relative to wars past.

    Now if we still used the tactics of say....WWII Dresden, or the Ho Chi Minh trail in North Vietnam, your emotional hyperbole might garner credence.

    Here is an example of exactly what is not happening in densely populated civilian areas. Welcome to the real world.

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIhGYu5Uc08"]This is what is not used in population centers[/ame]
     
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    LOL!

    Neat.

    :mrgreen:
     
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    sorry.

    that would be defined as terrorism.

    obviously its OK to do use it to destroy lives int he middle east though.
     
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    and the even less relevant lebanese, afghanis and others in the wrong part of the world
     
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    'Smart bomb'.

    Here we go again with the branding.:bored:

    Call it what it is, a weapon designed to murder.

    After all, that's what you called the weapons Saddam didn't have.

    So, now you wish to conjure up images of this little bomb that sort of zips along, killing 'only' a specific person, right? Or small group of non civilians right?

    Did they use them in Iraq then? If so, how come the non combatant civilian death toll is reported to be so high?
     
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    and the even less relevant lebanese, afghanis and others stupid enough to have been born in the wrong part of the world.

    or at least the wrong countries.
     
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    For sure.

    Except for the white non semites in Israel.

    Do it to them and it is terrorism again.
     
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    and if the big dogs invade your yard - maybe you should shoot to kill ... unless you are stupid enough to have been born in the wrong country - then you should let them maul your children, I guess.
     
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    I cannot believe any normal, healthy person supports the use of cluster bombs.

    Its beyond immoral.
     
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    As you have noted earlier, this is called "collateral damage".

    The fact that there are cowards who would use innocent civilians as a shield and in fact as a battle tactic is indeed disgusting. This is why it is critical to eradicate this particular vermin as thoroughly as possible.

    White phosphorous, napalm, and flame throwers have been used with great success for decades... WWII flamethrowers were an excellent tool for rooting Japanese out of caves and pill boxes. White phosphorous was extremely effective for breaking up enemy assaults on American outposts. The air assets an amazing force multiplier.

    You knew of course that Hamas HQ was built under the hospital?
     
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    For (*)(*)(*)(*)s sake you americans haven't got a clue what happens in the world.

    We saw plenty of footage of the impact of cluster bombs months after the Israel's attack on Lebanon a few years ago.

    your sanitised news doesn't show you what is really happening.

    if it did you might be decent human beings.
     
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    Well, let's see if we can perhaps examine why allegedly 'normal' people can be persuaded to go along with what, under all circumstances, would be seen as psychotic.

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpIzju84v24&feature=related"]BBC - Milgram Experiment (Electric Shock) - YouTube[/ame]
     
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    only cowards use cluster bombs, napalm, white phosphorous etc.

    you call others conspiracy theorists - you should try looking at yourself sometime.
     
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    Indeed that is true, however, perhaps this may be of interest to you, as a tie in..

    http://www.politicalforum.com/political-opinions-beliefs/218314-alter-our-home.html
     
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    Absolutely.

    Cowards, criminals, and those whose minds have been contaminated.

    As an atheist, it is as times like this that I wish there was a literal hell, because at least then I know said people would one day answer for what they do.

    And, there is a conspiracy alright, but it is no theory.

    Ask the tens of thousands of families that have lost a father, a mother, a brother, etc, in Iraq, for no other reason than that the US made up a story about WMD's, then on the back of that, murdered many.

    They should feel ashamed of themselves.
     
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    yes, I know about Milgram's work.

    And the profile of these people who demonise arabs is EXACTLY the same as the profile of those who demonised Jews in the thirties.

    The same people demonised the "gooks" in the 60's and 70's - and in another few decades they will be demonising someone else.

    the only wakeup call would be if they experienced the consequences for their actions and beliefs.
     
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    Many of them also attempt to minimize the severity of the use of such weapons by using epithets such as 'collateral damage' or 'surgical strikes'. It never fail to amaze me the extent to which many of them are sponges for propaganda.
     
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    LOL Are you 5? Of course a bomb is designed to kill. Duh.


    I'm not conjuring up anything. You are the one who apparently sees each surgical strike as equivalent to a nuclear bomb. LOL

    No, despite your disingenuous fabrications and over the top hyperbole, I clearly showed you what we did not do that we are clearly able to.

    If we had carpet bombed Iraq your histrionics might be justified. So far however, you seem unable to distinguish carpet bombing, smart bombs, or a gun camera from a attack helicopter. In your view they seem to be the same thing. Hard to have a serious conversation that way.

    Please, study up on the subject if you wish to retain credibility on the topic.
     

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