US pushing UN to lift ban on cluster bombs, say campaigners

The US of AIPAC and Israel also didn't enter into full sanctions against apartheid S Africa.

You seeing a pattern emerging here?

Apartheid was established in 1948 in S Africa too, btw. Their first elitist PM paid a special visit to what was also to become an apartheid state, based on racism.

 

Did you know that Kuwait were stealing Iraqi oil, by a particular method of drilling? That is why they invaded Kuwait, I am sure that would be reason enough for the US to invade someone, in fact, it doesn't even take that for the US to invade.

It's still nothing to do with you.

I thought it was about WMD, no?

Or are you going to make this up as you go along, indulge in a little historical revisionism?

 

The US had to reengage the entire MidEast to redirect a groundswell of islamic militancy caused by 9/11 away from the unprotected mainland to a forward military presence. WMD is propoganda which convieniently is close to the truth because Syria and Iran were both developing nuclear programs as we now know anyway. All Saddam had to do was step down and hand himself over, they gave him plenty of chances but he made the decision to hold out.

 

See how the little 'devils' all reach out to one another;

Brothers in arms - Israel's secret pact with Pretoria

During the second world war the future South African prime minister John Vorster was interned as a Nazi sympathiser. Three decades later he was being feted in Jerusalem. In the second part of his remarkable special report, Chris McGreal investigates the clandestine alliance between Israel and the apartheid regime, cemented with the ultimate gift of friendship - A-bomb technology


http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2006/feb/07/southafrica.israel

 

To who?

And for what?

And, even if so, how can wishing to bring one man to some sort of trial be a pre cursor to destroy the entire infrastructure of a beautiful country, and slay tens and tends of thousands of civilians?

That is madness.

No wonder you are so hated, by so many.

 

Trolling much? The UN, the US said it many times that all he had to do was to step down from power and they wouldn't invade Iraq. It was Saddam's decision, much like in Libya Gaddafi could have stopped it at anytime, instead no, the dictators have to stay in power at any cost - even their own countries. You like blaming the US because it suits your hatred, not because its the truth.

 

Tens of thousands were brutally murdered for that 'propaganda', that I don't hear you condemning?

Don't you feel those Bush, Cheney & Co should have been held accountable?

Or doesn' it matter, because the victims were just Untermensch?

Doesn't it matter how many die, how many lie, what you are shown, or what you see with your own very eyes?



[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rXPrfnU3G0"]Collateral Murder - Wikileaks - Iraq - YouTube[/ame]

 

Take responsibilty.

Man or woman, grow up, and stop speaking like you are thirteen.

How can I be trolling my own thread, that would be rather like you stalking yourself, no?

It was the decision of YOUR nasty little regime that caused the deaths of tens of thouands of Iraq's.

Do you not have an ounce of humanity or decency in you?

Jeez

 

Murdered by Arabs you mean, I know. Its sad for Iraq that Saddam gave the US the reason to establish such a deeply forward military base of operations. You just need to realize that the US doesnt go around murdering people.

Propoganda exists in war and it always will. There are different types of propoganda so you cannot just use the term as a blanket judgement. The US couldnt publically discuss its strategic policy and plans with the whole world for obvious reasons. What's important is that the US is doing it for the right reasons, and trying to do it in the best, quickest most efficient way possible with the least victims on both sides and inbetween.

 

It wasnt the US who killed most of the victims in Iraq. Seriously, if you dont know that then you are just simply parroting bs.

 

LOL Sorry buddy.........you've been exposed. Not so much for your stated positions......but for the inflammatory rhetoric and bigotries used to push those positions.

The record is very clear...scroll back a page or two......

 

The UN wanted more time to determine whether or not these phantom WMD existed.

Your lunatic regime did not give a (*)(*)(*)(*)e, went in, and murdered and raped.

I hope what goes around comes around. Apologist like you disgust me.



[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3w2mGQ7V3Q"]Mass-rape of women & children by American soldiers - YouTube[/ame]

Here are some of your freedom loving American raping cowards here, go cheer them.


[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8VBR608YjM"]Iraq War - The rape and murder of Abeer Qassim Hamza - YouTube[/ame]

 

Really.

Do you care to elaborate, or is that yet another word play game, aimed at me, for not hating the semites like you do?

 

See that video right, lets assume that was an illegal engagement; if that was islamic fanatics they would be heralding that video as a triumph and rolemodel for their cause --- compared to the US who would call it an illegal violation of orders and punish the person who did it. Surely even someone in your biased position can understand the difference??!?!

 

Interesting that only Afghanistan and Egypt seem to be the only signatories in the M.E.
Other noteworthy countries that didn't sign being China, Russia, the United States, India, Israel, Pakistan and Brazil.

Hmmm..........seems like none of the big players signed on.......




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convention_on_Cluster_Munitions

 

Blah, blah, blah.....still no unconditional condemantion?

Let's see how you spin the rape one/


Will it be?

A) A few 'bad apples'

B) The pressure of conflict

C) Saddam caused that

C) Saddam caused pressurised apples

 

Hmmm........Seems like striking deals with Hitler was popular..........

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfLvP2jTVq8"]Lets make a deal! [/ame]

 

The USA countered USSR expansionism with their own expansionism. Tell me, how many Soviet military bases are there in the world? How many American military bases?

America gets involved in other nations internal affairs as if they are American internal affairs. That isn't the fault of the world. That's America's foreign policy. That's your governments fault. Not my fault. Not Sadams fault. Not Bin Ladens fault. Not Jung-il's fault. Etcetera.

One reason 9/11 happened is because the USA was engaged in the Middle East. Get it?

The UN never supported the invasion of Iraq. And again, America is acting like these are their internal conflicts to interfere in. They aren't. Can't blame Gaddadi because America has an expansionist foreign policy.

Lol it was Bush and intellenegance from "Israel" (ironic) which gave the USA a reason to attack Iraq. Not too long ago they were allies in attacking Iran before that. Wouldn't it be something if Iran and Iraq are allies this time around?

They are doing a crappy job avoiding casualties and doing it quickly and efficiently... How long have they been in Iraq now? Talk of growing Iranian influence in Iraq? How many died in Iraq during the invasion? Oh right, it was Arabs invading Iraq not Americans...

Nope, it was Iraq that invaded Iraq and killed most of the civilians. How illogical to claim America is responsible for the civilian deaths of a country they invaded for no reason other than accusations and assumptions, both proven false after all these people lost their lives

Bush and Cheney are war criminals.

Salam

 

Western leftists don't criticize Russia or China for doing the same thing as America. But they are merciless in their attacks on America. America is held to a higher standard by Western leftists. That's absurd.

 

Funny the only 3 countries in that list to use cluster bombs are America, Russia and of course "Israel". In fact, "Israel" and Saudi Arabia are the only countries in the Middle East to use cluster bombs, despite only Afghanistan and Egypt being the only ones who signed.

When was the last time those 3 countries (Russia, America, and "Israel") used their cluster bombs?

Salam

 

China hasn't used cluster bombs yet.

 

Why has China developed cluster bombs in the first place? For ultimate use when the need arises.

 

they haven't used nukes either. are you going to wait around until they do?

 

they did it for the same reason they make land mines and ICBMs. they're (*)(*)(*)(*)ing awesome at what they do.

 

Its very cute how you try and lump 320 million people together.

You mean when the hezbollah terrorists attacked israel, and israel counter-striked?

Or are you referring to the thousands of hezbollah rockets indiscriminately fired into civilian israeli areas?