US pushing UN to lift ban on cluster bombs, say campaigners

You misrepresent me.

I rebuked those that use that term, call it what it is, it is, on purpose, raining chemicals down on children and civilians, with the intention of showing them how cruel you can be.

And you endorse this?

Well, by that reasoning, you would also endorse Zyklone B as being as fairly effective method of eradicating large numbers of problem Jews, as well, right?

Even new born one's.

 

Talking of propaganda sponges.

 

Okay, you have invented a plethora of ways to murder innocent people.

Well facking done.

 

LOL You saw "footage". I stayed in a Holiday Inn last night, so what?

Of course we know what cluster bombs do. Did you not see the video I put up of one of the greatest uses of the munitions ever recorded?

Once again......... here is the "Highway of Death" where the munitions were used with amazing success to decimate thousands of Iraqi military vehicles fleeing Kuwait.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ljXnV4Ibpk"]Of course we know what they do[/ame]

Our news has nothing to do with it. As far as being "decent" human beings......there is no other country on the globe that has saved or improved more lives the the U.S. Hundreds of millions around the globe in fact.

Thats pretty decent.

 

You save lives, by murdering innocent people in lands that have nothing to do with you?

 

yes, I saw your footage of the chicken shoot - as your guys referred to it.

took some courage, that did.

 

Today, this day, an innocent person will be killed or injured by a land mine dropped from a US aircraft into Laos or Cambodia. The planes have long disappeared but the mines remain. Even after 40 years these mines kill. Innocent people, men women and children are being punished for no reason by the same kind of people who advocate the use of cluster bombs today.

Why do we have such psychopaths making the same decisions today? And why do we even listen to psychopaths who advocate through public media the use of cluster bombs.

Cowards use innocent people as shields. But only cowards and psychopaths use cluster bombs, napalm and white phosphorous. One event does not justify the other.

 

No, only cowards use mothers and children to hide behind as shields such as the Hezbollah and Hamas.

 

Talking of whiny irrelevance.

 

and again - your sanitised news misrepresents what really happens.

real people were killed when they have been nowhere near Hamas or hesbollah - "collateral damage" you call it.

you wouldn't say that if your family were killed trying to flee the bombing in a war that as far as they were concerned had nothing to do with them.

http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/20_fleeing_Lebanese_villagers_killed_by_Israeli_missile

 

If it make you feel better, think of it as meting out justice. Terrorist are not innocent, military are not innocent, despots are not innocent. Yes, we have saved hundreds of millions of people, from WWII to the current day. When natural disaster strikes, we are the first on the scene committing military and aid. No country has saved more lives or contributed more to 3rd world countries from the ravages of conflict, disease, drought, or starvation.

I know the reality doesn't mesh with your chosen conspiracy theory but facts are facts. Sorry.

 

While this may not be popular, it needs to be said - the US Military has a long and ignoble history, not merely one of causing most conflicts, or even murdering the most innocent people, or even inventing new ways to do that (Yes, they are guilty of those, of course), but a new twist has been added of late, and that is a sort of sexual sado masochistic predisposition to debasing their victim in that way, then this being proudly beamed to millions. In short, they are the most evil, bruttish, and thuggish military, in the World.

Those terrible pics of what went on in Iraq, the mountains of human bodies piled up, the men naked, being terrorised by dogs, the Zionist white trash (*)(*)(*)(*)(*) who was leading a captive around by a collar, that wasn't about a 'bad apple', that was a result of the application of the psychology of the Milligram Experiment. So, while they carried out the actions, there is a good arguement for saying that those that make that environment possible, they are even more so.

For instance, neither Hitler or most of his hiearchy even killed anyone in person. They manipulated ordinary Germans into doing it, and ordinary Germans into accepting, even supporting it. Yet, despite that, Hitler and his hiearchy were held most accountable.

And with good reason.

 

Correct.

And most of all, state terrorism has accounted for the biggest loss of innocent life, therefore, they are the most evil terrorists, of all.

The US Military murder more innocent young people than everyone else, put together, so they are, by your reasoning, the most guilty.

So.

By your own rules, the next time someone blows up a building in America, and a few thousand die, are you just going to accept that as justice having been carried out, by those that deem your foreign policy to be literally criminal?

Just to be nice and just, and everything..

 

What are you talking about... murder and innocent are big words to be using!?

 

LOL Of course......now it's sexual! We get off on cluster bombs!!!

I suppose our reputation does suffer a bit from our success. But wouldn't it be interesting your opinion if the Soviet Union was still in existence? The U.S. military is kind and gentle relative to the Russians or the Chinese who seem not to be burdened with the same value of life that we hold.

Ah well, at your tender age, I have no doubt you will get to see the resurgence of Russia and China who do not play silly politically correct games of lexicon and clever euphemism. The big meanie U.S. may not be there to help in these upcoming events.

 

I do not see Russia or China routinely invading, occupying, and murdering the people in nations of foreign lands, before stealing their resources, locking up their citizens, then have some bullying psychopathic 'soldiers' sexually abuse them.

Shall I find the evidence to remind you?

Shall I find the evidence of NATO presence, at the very point that Gadaffi was captured, by the so called 'rebels', before they sodomised him, then murdered him?

Shall I show you what Hillary Clinton's reaction was?

The elites disgust me.

But those not part of the elite, who support their criminal actions, they are almost more despicable, as they have choice.

 

Yes.

And they are entirely appropriate.

What words would you prefer?

 

These same "type" of people also seem to be demonizing Americans, their military, and also Jews in modern day Israel right here in this thread.

This type of hate and bigotry is an old story that we have become accustomed to but it doesn't improve the smell with age.

 

No, you haven't seen Russia or China for awhile as the U.S.won the cold war and China is just now entering the modern world. Have patience lad, as China is beginning having to move about the globe to secure natural resources. They have begun work on their aircraft carriers and have a million man army. Russia is also beginning to feel its nationalistic oats once again.

As the U.S. necessarily begins to minimize our footprints in various areas of the globe......China and Russia will eagerly fill the void.

How prisoners are treated or insurrections put down in China makes Iraq look like a day at Disneyland. Russia, also does not fool around with silly niceties as civilians being in the way. To think otherwise is shockingly naive.

Have patience, you will get your wish of a new dog being in charge soon enough. LOL

 

Well get a clue and you might work it out. The US goes to huge lengths to avoid innocent casualties. If you think pacifism is the road to peace then your dillusional, it just leads to worse 'murder' of 'innocents'.

 

You still do not get it, do you?

Perhaps you are resistant to learning anything which you haven't been conditoned to think?

If the 'people' you refer to are the Muslim or Arab world, then let me assure you, they are not envious of the fact that you have 'freedoms' to eat a Big Mac with fries, visit Mickey Mouse, or become so bloated on your own decadence that it chokes the health of your nation.

I will spell it out for you.

It is US foreign policy, empire building, mass murdering, and unconditional support for a state who have violated more international laws, and more UN resolutions, than ANY other country, in the entire planet.

Don't you get how people may get pissed off that it is US money that is being handed to Israel, so that they can continue with their illegal and immoral expansionist programme?

 

People dont realize that the only thing stopping USSR expansion was armed resistance. The US does not have a policy of expanision, otherwise when the US won the cold war they could have moved in on the USSR in various ways. These lefty nuts only fear the US because they themselves are fearful people and grew out of being afraid of shadows... unfortunatly they do not have enough imagination to understand the range of consequances if the US and allies hadn't of stood up for democracy and freedoms.

 

Yes.

And Nazi's simply used Zyklone B, as a health measure, for delousing purposes.

 

Why do you keep going into countries that are none of your business, and terrorising and murdering defenceless people then?

Then remaining there.

Time and again.

And building bases there.

Time and again.

 

The US did not 'win' the Cold War, dear oh dear, is that what you are told?

Who won it, Bruce Willis or Rocky?

There was no war to win, it was 'cold', remember?

Communism collapsed in on itself there.

Just as all defective regimes do, on their own, given long enough.

I look forward to the day the Zion Nazi regime that is a cancer to US politics is killed off, like a cockroach.