VIPS to Trump: Intel on Iran Could be CATASTROPHIC

VIPS have published their letter to Trump warning of their concerns that the intelligence he is receiving on Iran may be catastrophically wrong.

They see parallels today about the beating of war drums against Iran by the US, as akin to the invasion of Iraq and the regime change of Hussein in 2003, which was based on false and flawed intelligence.

VIPS believe any war with Iran will be Catastrophic, and also see Israel being behind a move to war based again on flawed and designer false intelligence

https://consortiumnews.com/2018/08/01/vips-to-trump-intel-on-iran-could-be-catastrophic/

 

For what 'gut feelings' are worth, I think so too. I have a lot of respect for Iran, especially the culture, and certainly towards the good-natured people.

 

In 1938 there were educated people in America and England who claimed hitler was misunderstood and no threat to world peace

 

"May be Catastrophic? LOL How lame.. They have
no access to information.

You should also have immediately picked up on their accusation against Colin Powell.

This is another low brow propaganda site for rednecks.

 

Their accusations against the traitor Powell were spot on. I have wanted to forgive Powell for all these years, but he does not have enough honor to admit to his deception, so I can't.

The men and women of VIPS are to be admired for speaking truth to power. Will Trump heed their warning? Time will tell. By writing and publicizing this letter they have done their civic duty. God Bless the Whistleblowers!

 

I admire Powell.. As a soldier he took an oath to uphold the constitution and take orders from the President.

He did what he was told to do and resigned..

 

Very few people in military or intelligence believed Hitler was no threat.

 

I took the same oath Margot, but that doesn't mean I had to sell my soul to the devil.

Consider the words of Hartley Shawcross, a Nuremberg prosecutor from the US: "There comes a point when a man must refuse to answer to his leader if he is also to answer to his own conscience"

By that standard, Colin Powell and 90% of other leaders in Washington have long ago abandoned their own consciences. For many of us, that is plain to see.

 

If they are sane and intelligent they should know, what does the fisherman guild say ??

 

Probably not

Estimates are that if hitler had waited 5 or 6 years to start WWII he would have won easily

Which is the case with Iran

Time is on the Persians side if we do nothing

 

Here we go again.

Another fraudulent war for Israeli Regional Hegemony down to the last drop of American blood:

“QUIETLY LOBBYING CONGRESS TO APPROVE THE USE OF FORCE IN IRAQ WAS ONE OF AIPAC’S SUCCESSES OVER THE PAST YEAR.”
AIPAC Executive Director Howard Kohr; N.Y. Sun, Jan. 2003


No wonder the Israelis regard most Americans as "suckers":


"WHAT DO ISRAELIS THINK ABOUT AMERICANS? START WITH DISDAIN"
http://forward.com/news/israel/216074/what-do-israelis-think-about-americans-start-with/

EXCERPT " Though Israel is a famously fractious society, Israelis tend to agree on one thing: Their strongest supporters are an inherently dupable people.

“Most Israelis think Americans are pro-Israel and we can sell them anything, especially mud from the Dead Sea,” said David Lifshitz, the lead writer for the Israeli comedy show “Eretz Nehederet,” or “Wonderful Land.”

“Or — just regular mud with a ‘Dead Sea’ sticker on it.”

But it’s not just American tourists whom many Israelis see as guileless. American foreign policy is held up to similar scrutiny here, even as Israel receives billions of dollars in foreign aid from the United States each year.

The naivete Israelis perceive in Americans is not just something they believe only Israel’s adversaries exploit; Israelis believe they can do so, too — and do. In a secretly recorded video of a 2001 discussion with a group of terror victims in the Ofra settlement in the Israeli occupied West Bank, now-Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu laid out this widely held perception.

“I know what America is,” Netanyahu, told the settlers. “America is a thing that can be easily moved, moved in the right direction. CONTINUED

 

The Bush administration marginalized the Arabs, Europeans, oilmen, historians and diplomats who said NO to invading Iraq. Remember "Freedom Fries"? Remember the attacks on Scott Ritter?

 

Re:

Who is "We"?

Are "We" going to leave that comfortable chair, enlist in the U.S. Military, grab a rifle & go halfway around the globe to some fetid hell hole to fight for Israeli regional hegemony?

I didn't think so.


"All the war-propaganda, all the screaming and lies and hatred, comes invariably from people who are not fighting."
~George Orwell

 

Nazi Generals took

Better information than you. They still have friends/contacts and respect in the intelligence community.

Colin Powell's intelligence was NFG was it:

 

Good luck with being a pacifist and banishing war from the planet

 

I think it's "We" who enjoy the good life international trade routes provide us with, and those routes go thru many rivals - one just has to chose a side, you simply hate the side your country took.

 

lol, it's Shea "pacifism", he's not special, just a sour loser.

 

After the splendid, stunning, and ultra-spectacular 1936 games most of the world thought Hitler had to be the angel of peace. The IOC was continually honoring Hitler, and the games were to again be under the Swastika in 1940, but then there was Kristallnacht and then war and then the cancelation of the games.

 

Then hitler and stalin signed a pact and liberals in America were terribly confused

Up till then they loved stalin and hated hitler

 

The intelligence community doesn't make policy.. They just gather information. You hold Powell accountable but not Bush, Cheney, the neocons and the Brits??? Have you forgotten Operation Mass Appeal?

 

If the Deep State wanted war they would only feed the white house intelligence to support war

 

Like the Gulf of Trolling Incident.

 

I think LBJ was in on that one

 

Uh huh! And what nations did Iran invade? As far as I know, Iran like Russia were invited into Syria. The ones who weren't are: US, UK, Israel, Fr, KSA, Qatar, Turkey and a few others. Most are still in Syria.

 

There is no deep state except between Trump's ears.