Wahington state becomes first US state to recognize as holodomor as genocide.

I do not think he can explain it because he interprets genocide in his own way.

 

Where did he start making schools in ukranian?

 

Perhaps you should read the thread I started here vis, that may help explain it to you, it's rather hard for you Muscovites to interpret genocide, or are incapable of it.

 

All good Commie monsters, like Stalin, want to set up schools to brainwash the children into believing and supporting their regimes. Of course they would use the local language.

Stalin allowed most of the Ukrainians to live so they could work the land to support him.

Commies are the scum of the Earth, even worse than radical Muslims.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_killings_under_Communist_regimes

 

I think you do not have personal experience neither with radical Muslims, nor with Communists to make such statements. By the way, by convention, genocide has a specific feature: ban of the use of native language.

 

Zoom, I do not have time now to read all 13 pages, but the word "genocide" you are playing here has a very precise definition and this phenomenon has very specific features so that people did not confuse it with something else. In general, every discussion should start with a definition. If it is not done, then your point can be argued. So... Specific features of genocide:
1. Destruction of culture values, ban to use the native language, destruction of books on the native language, destruction of local museums, monuments etc.
2. Cruel actions with respect to the large group of peoples.
And this is a definition of genocide, done by Raphael Lemkin that is commonly accepted: "Generally speaking, genocide does not necessarily mean the immediate destruction of a nation, except when accomplished by mass killings of all members of a nation. It is intended rather to signify a coordinated plan of different actions aiming at the destruction of essential foundations of the life of national groups, with the aim of annihilating the groups themselves. The objectives of such a plan would be the disintegration of the political and social institutions, of culture, language, national feelings, religion, and the economic existence of national groups, and the destruction of the personal security, liberty, health, dignity, and even the lives of the individuals belonging to such groups"
I am sorry, but the events in Ukraine does not fall in the category of genocide, if it is understood in the commonly accepted way.

 

Stalin especially targeted the Kulaks as a class as "enemies of the people" and many Ukrainian farmers refused to participate in the Soviet system of land management known as collectivization at the time as formerly proud landowners. Stalin responded to their defiance by dictating a policy to cause mass starvation. The Kulaks as a class were destroyed and an entire nation of village farmers had been collectivized by the end of 1933.

 

I've read enough history on how the Soviets and and other such nations treated their people and enemies.

Anyway, are you a Holodomor denier?

Radical Muslims only deserve a bullet or a noose.

 

By the way, how many US states recognized the genocide of Native Americans?

 

Well vis, I see one cannot reason or explain anything to you, shame that you're some sort of Prof or claim to be, basically it's a known fact that it was an intended act of genocide and forcible eradication of a cultural people's, but seems you have trouble understanding, must be that sovok stubbornness,no surprise, you're your own worst enemy and will continue to be.

 

Most Muscovites are holodomor deniers, they know of it in the back of their mind, it's just an irritating fact that keeps popping up from time to time.

 

If you are talking about Holodomor as about genocide, than yes, I deny it. The books are written by people who get money for their publcations and who has specific political preferences, so I can find two books for you on the same subject but with a completely different point of view on the specific event.

 

"It is a known fact.... " Known by whom? Sorry, any correct approach starts from the definitions. If not, then it is just bla bla...I can the same way say that bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, since it was aimed at specific group of people (Japanese) was a genocide.

 

Common, what you talking about? There were no genocide of Native Americans US is an angel country comminting no genocide to anyone.

 

1920 and so on.

 

With this i can argue, but this is a logical assumption.

But you are saying that the Holodomor was made specifically for Ukrainians.
This is not true. All 16 republics of the USSR suffered from the famine.
A total of about 10 million people died.

And I explained why Stalin did it. To buy factory, equipment in the USA. To pay salaries to American specialists.
Stalin bought 20 plants in the USA. Large as a Ford plant .



American specialists built another two hundred small factories.

Almost the entire industry of the USSR was created by the Americans. To pay for this work, money from the Holodomor was used.

 

According to American statistics, for the decade from 1931 to 1940, according to the dynamics of population growth, the United States lost not less than 8 million 553 thousand people, and population growth rates change Decreased immediately, simultaneously, at two (!) times precisely at the turn of 1930/31 Fall and freeze at this level for exactly ten years. And just as suddenly, after a decade, they return to their previous values. But "Statistical Abstract of the United States" is silent about this.
Any responsible demographer will tell you that a one-stage double change in the dynamics of the population in a hundreds million country is possible only as a result of mass deaths of people.

Where are the 7 million 394 thousand Americans who disappeared from the statistical accounts of the 1930s?

Here is part of the screenshot of the statistical website of the US government. "The statistical report for this year was not compiled," reads the signature. A good way to hide the ends in the water. Just do not write a report.





American politicians hide how they destroyed their peoples. Let these hypocrites talk about American labor camps. Camps like the Nazis.
The administration of the labor camps was led by the Minister of the Interior Ickes, Harold LeClair, who since 1932 has imprisoned about two million people (!) In the camps, and of $ 30 of nominal wages a month, the mandatory deductions amounted to $ 25 for the tool and delivery to the work place.
Yes, yes it is the same Harold Leckler Ickes (1874-1952), the organizer of the Gulag in American style, the Minister of the Interior in the administrations of Presidents F.D. Roosevelt and G. Truman (1933-1946), director of the Administration of Public Works (1933-1939). It was he who later interned the ethnic Japanese of the United States into concentration camps in valor and lightning speed, in cooperation with the army. (1941/42). The first stage of the operation took only 72 hours.
Against the backdrop of massive famine and the death of the "surplus" population, the US government also in these years to please certain circles, namely the agrarian business lobby, in significant quantities and systematically destroys the food supplies to the country. Of course, quite "market methods". Destroys diversely and in large quantities: grain and just burned, and drowns in the ocean. For example, 6.5 million pigs were killed and 10 million hectares of land were destroyed.
The goal was not concealed. It consisted of an increase in the price of food in the country by more than two times in the interests of agro-capital. Of course. This completely coincided with the interests of the big capitalists from agriculture and exchange trade, but did not really like the hungry. The "hungry marches" during Hoover, as well as the massacre of the marching ones, became common even in American capitals.....

Let the Americans study their history first.

 

Hiroshima, Nagasaki, was meant to bring about quick end to the war, not to wipe out an entire cultural group, I thought I made that clear.

 

Stalin did? In 1920? He wasn't even president or first secretary then!

 

Sorry, but for me it is not clear. And looks like not only for me. If I define a genocide as a deliberate mass killing of a certain group of people, Hiroshima and Nagasaki- is pure genocide of Japanese people.

 

Well sure it's not clear for you, as is holodomor, and I'm not the only one , looks like the state of Washington seems to agree, probably more to follow.N ow you may think it's no genocide, but others do, just like Katyn forest, Baltics, Finland false flag, invasion of astan? Muscovschyna mind thinks in reverse.

 

War in Finland was also a genocide? You have to drink less Zoom. I do not care what officials in Washington agree or not agree. They are bunch of morons and canniballs.

 

Stalin was at that time the chief responsible for national affairs. It was his sector.

Let me remind you that in the USSR there were 16 national republics. Nationalities are even greater.

 

Is it really that significant that one state recognizes the genocide in Ukraine?

Here's the truth, no it's not.

 

Aww how cute, all the euro trolls in one thread.
Now back to work with you, pip pip cheerio.