What are your views on abortion?

Discussion in 'Abortion' started by Daggdag, Oct 19, 2020.

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Which best describes your view on abortion

  1. A woman has the right to choose to get an abortion with no limitations.

    41 vote(s)
    47.7%
  2. Abortion should be illegal after the first trimester

    16 vote(s)
    18.6%
  3. Abortion should be illegal except to preserve the health and life of the mother.

    24 vote(s)
    27.9%
  4. Abortion should be illegal in all circumstances.

    5 vote(s)
    5.8%
  1. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    How about I can drag you to a doctor and have the doctor euthanize you, so long as the doctor agrees.

    That's what this is like.
     
  2. WillReadmore

    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

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    ??? Are you here discussing healthcare rights without knowing ANYTHING about patient's rights today?

    The patient has one or more doctors who offer options and advice.

    The patient may accept an offered course of treatment or refuse all options. Patients in hospitals may sign themselves out and leave against doctor's advice.

    There are exceptions, such as cases where the patient can't make healthcare decisions for themselves.


    How about learning about healthcare before advocating for change?
     
  3. WillReadmore

    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

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    No.
     
  4. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well, then you can see why pro-lifers say no to you.
     
  5. Thingamabob

    Thingamabob Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Has the subject gone off the rails? Is anyone really discussing what the woman wants for her own body? Are we not actually discussing whether or not an abortion is the taking of a life according to law?
     
  6. WillReadmore

    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

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    No, your analogy was just not valid.
     
  7. WillReadmore

    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

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    The laws being written have far reaching affect on women's healthcare.

    I know there are those who would like to turn their own (usually religious) views into laws against others, even when it damages healthcare in general.

    I'd also point out that diet, risky behavior, etc. can also cause fetal damage. Is that the next front on how you would choose to impose your views on women?

    In your view, is a fetus more important than the woman's life? Would you write laws against treating cancer in pregnant women? Would you require the woman's life to be ignored in other serious circumstance?
     
  8. Thingamabob

    Thingamabob Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Who do you think you are talking to?
    Who says it is or isn't?
    Your imagination is your main problem.
    Such as?

    I repeat ....
     
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  9. Thingamabob

    Thingamabob Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    redundant
     
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  10. WillReadmore

    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

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    No, the main problem here is that you think YOU can answer these questions for everyone else, and enforce your answers by the force of government.

    And, the laws being made have a serious impact on the healthcare of women.

    Over and over, I've posted articles concerning the damage to women's healthcare.

    You should do your research, IF on the off chance you are interested in women's healthcare.
     
  11. Thingamabob

    Thingamabob Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You need to wake up :bored: and find out who you are talking to.

    You are so wrong :nod: that it's enough to laugh all the way home. Medical-assisted abortions were originally created for reasons concerning women's health and eventually realized that life in the womb also needed to be scrutinized but it seems obvious to me that you understand none of that. :disbelief:
     
  12. WillReadmore

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    If you knew of a mistake I made ...

    ... why don't you STATE it??

    As for your hint, I'm talking about TODAY, not the origins of abortion.
     
  13. Thingamabob

    Thingamabob Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Your mistake has been committed and expanded in so many levels that it isn't worth my time trying to extricate you.
    So am I. You just don't understand it.
     
  14. WillReadmore

    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

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    That's absolute BS and you know it.

    I've cited professionals in gynecological healthcare (both individual doctors, healthcare organizations and medical education).

    And, now your comment is: "You just don't understand it."

    But, it's not just about me.
     
  15. Thingamabob

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    Just carry on. :bored:
     
  16. WillReadmore

    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

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    So, you've got zip.

    Or, you would have said something.
     
  17. Thingamabob

    Thingamabob Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I think it's time for you to quote the part of my contribution that you disagree with. Can you do that? No, that's what I thought. You can't. :alcoholic:
     
  18. WillReadmore

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    You were making claims about what I said.

    You need to state what you thought was a mistake.

    Today's laws on abortion are damaging women's healthcare. We need to start remembering that an individual has personal bodily autonomy.
     
  19. Thingamabob

    Thingamabob Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I was right, you can't. :alcoholic:
     
  20. WillReadmore

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    Nice total and absolute surrender.
     
  21. Thingamabob

    Thingamabob Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You admit it - you can't come up with a single quote.
     
  22. WillReadmore

    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

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    I've cited the issues with women's healthcare on this thread multiple times.

    I haven't seen squat from you.

    And, you couldn't criticize what I presented.
     
  23. Thingamabob

    Thingamabob Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    As I keep telling you :below: :below: :below: :below:

    That would be a good way to find out what's what but I'm still waiting for you to provide an example. So far .... nothing from you. Not a single quote, which signifies your total and absolute surrender. So, what's it gonna' be? Still nothing or are you going to contribute something meaningful? It would be really great if you could do that but I'm not holding my breath in anticipation. :laughing: Try to remember, that we are discussing "abortion".
     
  24. chris155au

    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    What does any of this have to do with whether or not her medical opinion has more authority than the doctor?
     
  25. chris155au

    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    That's what what is like?
     

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