What can Republicans possibly run on in 2016?

Tell that to the pious, Right-wing politicians who so firmly think/believe Jesus was/is a "Republican".

 

In less than 5 years Obama and the Democrats ran up the national debt $6.7 TRILLION dollars.

The Democrats lost 69 seats in Congress in 2010, 63 in the House and 6 in the Senate and gained back just 10 total in 2012.

To put that in perspective.....New York City, Population 8.337 million (2012)

This has been debunked so very many times I almost didn't respond. Driver's license? Any Government issued photo ID will do, you know like the one they used to apply for any Government benefit like welfare, food stamps, WIC's coupons, housing assistance the very benefits urban blacks and 80 year old war widows would likely be using. Or even just to cash a check because they don't have a bank account.

First and foremost will be the colossal failure of Obama Care......................

[video=youtube;_o65vMUk5so]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_o65vMUk5so[/video]

That's going to be a problem for what ever Democrat runs in 2016.

So will this....................

As you may know, a bill that makes major changes to the country's health care system became law in 2010. Based on what you have read or heard about that legislation, do you generally favor or generally oppose it?

Sept. 27 - 29 2013

Favor 38%
Oppose 57%
No opinion 4%

Mar 19 - 21 2010

Favor 39%
Oppose 59%
No opinion 2%

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2013/images/09/30/rel10a.pdf

The majority of people didn't want Obama Care in 2010 and those numbers haven't changed much since. Once it crashes services and belly flops it's way into peoples monthly budgets with high deductibles and high yearly out of pocket costs + the premiums, the Democrats are about to have 2 bad elections in a row.



Example Silver Plan: Say a kid takes a bad spill off a skate board while Mom and Dad are at work around and he's down on the ground. A passerby calls 911. The ambulance ($250) picks him up and off to the Emergency Room ($250) he goes. They call you and you go flying down there. You get there and the Doctor sends him off for an X-Ray ($65). Nothing broken show up, but he's in a lot of pain so off for an MRI ($250) so they can see the extent of the soft tissue damage. He pulled a tendon, give 'em a brace and some crutches and off to the Pharmacy for the pain meds ($25). So lets see how this breaks down. This month you've paid $XXX premium, and $840 out of pocket. Of the $840 on the check you just wrote $315 reduces your yearly deductible, but does not apply to your yearly out of pocket. The other $525 are not subject to any deductible and does count toward your yearly out of pocket $12,600. These are the California Plans which are quite generous.

Once that sticker shock hits people that USED to have a good company sponsored health plan Democrats will have a real bad 2014. The Democrats simply don't have anyone to run in 2016.

 

I love this post. No mention of the Shutdown.

 

To prove how utterly retarded and shameless yer thread is just remember
that Bush had a Budget Deficit of $ 161 Billion in 2007.
Bush also managed to get us out of the Clinton-inherited mini-recession
of 2000 in about a years time.As did Republican Warren Harding with the
Radical Woodrow Wilson-inherited Depression of 1920-21.
When the new Republicans came in '94 with Newt Gingrich they managed to
balance FOUR consecutive budgets.Unlike the 40 year rule of Democrats in the
house who raided Social Security,similar to the way Obama raided medicare
to the tune of removing $ 716 Billion to help fund ObamaCare.
Know thy history.
Yer OP is Lax.Maybe taking too many laxatives.
Know thy rule :
Democrats LIE !
Republicans Talk Turkey

 

The Republicans surely aren't shutting down the Government.Just ObamaCare.
because the American public voted for it in 2012 and all major polls say
the majority of Americans DO NOT WANT a Federal mandate on Healthcare.
No aspect of government,not one,except Obamacare are Republicans shutting down.
The Media is colluding in this transgression of lies,blaming Republicans.

 

Say it any way you please... the Republicans are mostly responsible for the crisis (manufactured, at that) this nation is facing.

Republican politics and overall approaches SUCK!!!

 

Christie would kick the **** out of Hilary in 2016......but Republicans aren't that smart.

 

"No mention of the Shutdown."

Taxcutter says:
The shutdown shows that much of government can be successfully dispensed with.

As the shutdown goes on and on and nobody is put out (beyond getting roughed up in the National Parks) it becomes more of a feature and less of a bug.

The Federal Register is down to eleven pages this morning - way down from the 600 pages a day it was running before the shutdown. This is a huge improvement.

 

I'm no Right-winger... but if he won, at least I'd feel we didn't elect a crazy-man (like some who ran on the Right last time).

 

A choice, not an echo.

 

I disagree. His unfunded wars, unfunded expansion of medicare, and his unfunded tax cuts to the rich, all ( imo ) were the major contributors.

 

I can say the same thing though. If we hadnt gone to war in two nations, pushed through tax cuts we didnt have the money for, and went on the biggest expansion of medicare and government ( patriot act / homeland security ) then I could have said the same thing. We prolly wouldnt have had such an economic collapse.

 

Well first you have some inaccuracies - the Republicans didn't cause the Great Depression (I'd appreciate you make your case on that), and the Republican policies didn't cause the recent recession. Again, I'd appreciate you making your case on that.

When 53% blame Obama and 69% blame Bush, you don't have much of a leg to stand on in saying the the Republicans can't run on economic issues. True, many do blame Bush for the recession (to a mixed degree, accurately), but here's the problem - Bush isn't running. Bush's policies that contributed to the recession were mostly liberal policies where he reached across the aisle. But I assume you're really just referring to the tax cuts, in which case, first off, you'd be wrong to suggest a direct link between them and the recession (there isn't one, and the recession was half a decade later, years after the Democrats took control of the Senate and House). But, more importantly - since we're talking about political futures - you'd be wrong to think that 69% of voters blame Bush for the recession because of the tax cuts. 50% of voters believe that they currently pay too much in taxes, the same as was true when the tax cuts were passed. That and that Republicans lead by 7pts on voter trust on the issue of taxes. It's worth noting that Republicans lead on 12/15 of the top issues among voters, with huge leads in national security, government spending, and 'issues affecting small business', falling behind only on social security, education, and the environment.

So yeah, the Republicans do have a lot to run on. 12/15 of the top issues, actually. Granted, a partisan such as yourself might believe that the gop has absolutely nothing to run on, but you're just deceiving yourself.

 

This is really silly, the notion that a 2% tax cut for the top 1% of "the rich" is responsible for trillions in debt.

In 2011 the total income taxes was $1.7 trillion, the top 1% paid 35% of that. Even if a 2% increase of that equaled $20 billion, and multiplied out ten years, it's a paltry $200 billion, meanwhile the debt has climbed $10 trillion over that same time. Certainly is not a BIG part of the debt or deficit.

 

Did I say Bush's tax cuts for the wealthy was RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL THE debt? I didn't. What I did say is that they are having a continued, SIGNIFICANT impact on the debt.

And:

And, if you prefer charts:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...e-legacy-of-the-bush-tax-cuts-in-four-charts/

 

We need a president who is not a bought and paid for establishment politician who owes more to Wall Street and the Washington political machine then to the American people, 0bama is, Bush was, Hilary is, I think Cristie is, and Romney was, and McCain is.

 

Nice idea.....only a pipe dream though. $$$$$$ commands everyone and everything. Our SCOTUS says so.

 

I didn't say ALL either, i quoted you, you said it was a BIG part of the deficit. We expanded federal spending by $500 billion in 2009, from $3 trillion to $3.5 trillion, that blows away the tax cuts for the 1%. One problem with assuming that that 2% was somehow lost to the government coffers, is that it does not take into account that the 2% the rich were not taxed on, was most likely put to work into the economy.

Remember, this was income tax, which means these people are actually earning an income, they are working people, creating products an services, and jobs. They are not trust the fund babies, or people like Warren Buffett who pay a lower tax rate then their secretaries do.

 

As much as I think Ron Paul, Dennis Kucinich, and Sarah Palin are extreme in their views, I think they are honest people. I am begining to think we might be better off with an honest person as president to undo a lot of the damage committed by the crooks who have been running the country for the past twenty years. I'm not proposing we elect them, just engaging in an exercise in thought. We have been ruled over by people who don't give a rat's ass about us, and have only been out to enrich themselves and their personal, political and corporate cronies.

 

NOPE! Tax cuts to the lower middle class certainly are reinvested in the economy. . .tax cuts for the top 1% are mostly spend ABROAD.
What do you think stimulates the economy most? 10 lower middle class people purchasing 10 small cars made in the US, or ONE 1%er purchasing a Mercedes from Germany?

Or, 10 lower middle class people purchasing 10 refrigerators made by Whirlpool in a US factory, or ONE 1% purchasing an "around the world cruise?"

Would you say that a 10 deposit accounts opening in small, State banks are LESS stimulating to the US economy than ONE deposit account in the Cayman Island or Switzerland?

I suggest you look at those charts. . .if the words are difficult for you to grasp.

 

The same things the GOP has always run on and frankly they really don't have to campaign all that hard. Gerrymandering is the norm in most, if not all of the states and so long as they don't do anything more radical than they already have, then the same folks who voted for them last election will likely vote for them again.

Let's get real, most (50%+) Americans are either uninformed or misinformed and as a result they'll go and pull the lever for whichever party their mommy and daddy's voted for because the "other team" is wrong because my news source told me so.

 

You think Pukin' Palin would give a rat's azz about you? Surely, you jest.

 

To the point of the OP, the Republicans won't win a national election until they completely reverse the strategy they have used for 20 years, you have to be for something, not just against the status quo. The Republicans have spent like drunken sailors since 1980, and then magically got religion in '08 discovering there was a debt crisis. They have now devolved into a fringe group that simply whines about spending but have no ideas of what to do to fix the problems. Their trickle down economics have had a long enough run now where income inequality is not only noticed but creating its own politics, ( see Occupy movement. ). Their attack on spending has been lets (*)(*)(*)(*) away a few more trillion on security and defense but put Grandma on a dog food diet to pay for it. Every speech and political add is "Let's Do Less" in the face of a population that has watched its middle class existence evaporate. The People want answers and some leadership or hope to get out of it. The Democrats offer Big Government while the Republicans offer nothing. I think the days of blind faith are over. You need some platform other that more of the same.

 

Except none of them were unfunded.

 

Bush said that dictators in the ME would start falling like dominoes once Saddam was removed, and democracy established in Iraq. The Dems opposed establishing democracy, and left as soon as they got the chance. But that still doesn't change the facts. The peoples of the ME are demanding democracy now. And since we need oil from that region for our entire society to function whatsoever, I'd say that's a good thing.