What has atheism ever done for the world?

1) Murder, rape, and pillage at Jabesh-gilead (Judges 21:10-24 NLT)

So they sent twelve thousand warriors to Jabesh-gilead with orders to kill everyone there, including women and children. “This is what you are to do,” they said. “Completely destroy all the males and every woman who is not a virgin.” Among the residents of Jabesh-gilead they found four hundred young virgins who had never slept with a man, and they brought them to the camp at Shiloh in the land of Canaan.

The Israelite assembly sent a peace delegation to the little remnant of Benjamin who were living at the rock of Rimmon. Then the men of Benjamin returned to their homes, and the four hundred women of Jabesh-gilead who were spared were given to them as wives. But there were not enough women for all of them. The people felt sorry for Benjamin because the LORD had left this gap in the tribes of Israel. So the Israelite leaders asked, “How can we find wives for the few who remain, since all the women of the tribe of Benjamin are dead? There must be heirs for the survivors so that an entire tribe of Israel will not be lost forever. But we cannot give them our own daughters in marriage because we have sworn with a solemn oath that anyone who does this will fall under God’s curse.”

Then they thought of the annual festival of the LORD held in Shiloh, between Lebonah and Bethel, along the east side of the road that goes from Bethel to Shechem. They told the men of Benjamin who still needed wives, “Go and hide in the vineyards. When the women of Shiloh come out for their dances, rush out from the vineyards, and each of you can take one of them home to be your wife! And when their fathers and brothers come to us in protest, we will tell them, ‘Please be understanding. Let them have your daughters, for we didn’t find enough wives for them when we dest60royed Jabesh-gilead. And you are not guilty of breaking the vow since you did not give your daughters in marriage to them.'” So the men of Benjamin did as they were told. They kidnapped the women who took part in the celebration and carried them off to the land of their own inheritance. Then they rebuilt their towns and lived in them. So the assembly of Israel departed by tribes and families, and they returned to their own homes.

Obviously these women were repeatedly raped. These sick bastards killed and raped an entire town and then wanted more virgins, so they hid beside the road to kidnap and rape some more. How can anyone see this as anything but evil?

2) Murder, rape and pillage of the Midianites (Numbers 31:7-18 NLT)

They attacked Midian just as the LORD had commanded Moses, and they killed all the men. All five of the Midianite kings – Evi, Rekem, Zur, Hur, and Reba – died in the battle. They also killed Balaam son of Beor with the sword. Then the Israelite army captured the Midianite women and children and seized their cattle and flocks and all their wealth as plunder. They burned all the towns and villages where the Midianites had lived. After they had gathered the plunder and captives, both people and animals, they brought them all to Moses and Eleazar the priest, and to the whole community of Israel, which was camped on the plains of Moab beside the Jordan River, across from Jericho.

Moses, Eleazar the priest, and all the leaders of the people went to meet them outside the camp. But Moses was furious with all the military commanders who had returned from the battle. “Why have you let all the women live?” he demanded. “These are the very ones who followed Balaam’s advice and caused the people of Israel to rebel against the LORD at Mount Peor. They are the ones who caused the plague to strike the LORD’s people. Now kill all the boys and all the women who have slept with a man. Only the young girls who are virgins may live; you may keep them for yourselves.

Clearly Moses and God approves of rape of virgins.

3) More Murder Rape and Pillage (Deuteronomy 20:10-14)

As you approach a town to attack it, first offer its people terms for peace. If they accept your terms and open the gates to you, then all the people inside will serve you in forced labor. But if they refuse to make peace and prepare to fight, you must attack the town. When the LORD your God hands it over to you, kill every man in the town. But you may keep for yourselves all the women, children, livestock, and other plunder. You may enjoy the spoils of your enemies that the LORD your God has given you.

What kind of God approves of murder, rape, and slavery?

4) Laws of Rape (Deuteronomy 22:28-29 NAB)

If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her.

What kind of lunatic would make a rape victim marry her attacker? Answer: God.

5) Death to the Rape Victim (Deuteronomy 22:23-24 NAB)

If within the city a man comes upon a maiden who is betrothed, and has relations with her, you shall bring them both out of the gate of the city and there stone them to death: the girl because she did not cry out for help though she was in the city, and the man because he violated his neighbors wife.

It is clear that God doesn’t give a damn about the rape victim. He is only concerned about the violation of another mans “property”.

6) David’s Punishment – Polygamy, Rape, Baby Killing, and God’s “Forgiveness” (2 Samuel 12:11-14 NAB)

Thus says the Lord: ‘I will bring evil upon you out of your own house. I will take your wives [plural] while you live to see it, and will give them to your neighbor. He shall lie with your wives in broad daylight. You have done this deed in secret, but I will bring it about in the presence of all Israel, and with the sun looking down.’

Then David said to Nathan, “I have sinned against the Lord.” Nathan answered David: “The Lord on his part has forgiven your sin: you shall not die. But since you have utterly spurned the Lord by this deed, the child born to you must surely die.” [The child dies seven days later.]

This has got to be one of the sickest quotes of the Bible. God himself brings the completely innocent rape victims to the rapist. What kind of pathetic loser would do something so evil? And then he kills a child! This is sick, really sick!

7) Rape of Female Captives (Deuteronomy 21:10-14 NAB)

“When you go out to war against your enemies and the LORD, your God, delivers them into your hand, so that you take captives, if you see a comely woman among the captives and become so enamored of her that you wish to have her as wife, you may take her home to your house. But before she may live there, she must shave her head and pare her nails and lay aside her captive’s garb. After she has mourned her father and mother for a full month, you may have relations with her, and you shall be her husband and she shall be your wife. However, if later on you lose your liking for her, you shall give her her freedom, if she wishes it; but you shall not sell her or enslave her, since she was married to you under compulsion.”

Once again God approves of forcible rape.

Rape and the Spoils of War (Judges 5:30 NAB)

They must be dividing the spoils they took: there must be a damsel or two for each man, Spoils of dyed cloth as Sisera’s spoil, an ornate shawl or two for me in the spoil. (Judges 5:30 NAB)

9) Sex Slaves (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)

When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again. But he is not allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the contract with her. And if the slave girl’s owner arranges for her to marry his son, he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but he must treat her as his daughter. If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing or fail to sleep with her as his wife. If he fails in any of these three ways, she may leave as a free woman without making any payment. (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)

10) God Assists Rape and Plunder (Zechariah 14:1-2 NAB)

Lo, a day shall come for the Lord when the spoils shall be divided in your midst. And I will gather all the nations against Jerusalem for battle: the city shall be taken, houses plundered, women ravished; half of the city shall go into exile, but the rest of the people shall not be removed from the city. (Zechariah 14:1-2 NAB)

 

I have nothing against Christianity but Hitler did go to Church.

So...I mean there it is.

AA

 

Weren't the Vikings religious too?

 

Retaking Jerusalem.

The Ego driven idiocies of Religion.

Payback against the Moors.

There are 1000 excuses.

AA

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Yep.

Odin, Thor, Loki...etc.

Norse Gods.

AA

 

The question of this thread was "what has atheism ever done for the world?"

There are Methodist hospitals, Presbyterian hospitals, Catholic hospitals and charities. If there is such a thing as an atheist hospital I've never heard of it.

I know that you hate us and I know how you justify it, by reciting questionable history you never witnessed and talking about people you never knew. Just tell me this: what have you ever done for the world?

 

He is not attacking you.

He is stating a fact and detailing the history of what happened.

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Why would any Atheist name a hospital after a sect of Christianity?

The vast majority of Doctors are either Agnostics or Atheists.

AA

 

This one projects.

Wow. Just wow.

 

It provided progress. Something that Christianity(a religion) retarded for over 1000 years.

 

social anthropologists and historians have deduced that many people were killed 'one at a time', throughout Christendom (within the past 1500 years), specifically because they didn't tow the party line. theists of other stripes have killed (and still do) kill apostates throughout that time.

yes, the 20thC was bad news professionally and socially for anyone brassy enough to admit to atheism. particularly in the decades before 1970. as mentioned, in some parts of the world it's STILL professional suicide to admit to non-belief. I hear that in one western nation, the populace currently ranks atheists as the least trustworthy people. they come dead last - after car salesman, lawyers, politicians, etc. that is frankly astonishing. how have such people managed to remain so isolated from and oblivious to modern mores? I have no answer. it's too bizarre to make sense of.

why would clerical garb attract anything negative? we have collared folk here, too, but they're treated the same as everyone else. my research tells me they don't attract particular negative attention. if anything, they receive slightly more positive attention than the populace. we put this down to a remnant of the old ideas about men of god being necessarily 'good', and therefore deserving of unearned respect.

 

Religion has ALWAYS been a system of control and profit.

To deny this is the same as denying basic physics.

AA

 

Which "social anthropologists"?

If you want to know why Christian clerics would attract negative attention, it's for the same reason atheists show up on religion forums to talk about why they hate Christians.

 

Sad that you urinate in the face of Christ.

Every time you lie, you do that.

And you do that a LOT.

 

I'm afraid I haven't met any atheists who 'hate Christians'. You must meet a lot more atheists than I do ... which is odd given you live in America, and I live in a predominantly atheist nation. Still, I'll take your word for it that they exist.

My impression of the atheists here is that most participate for the same reasons I do. Intellectual stimulation, tool sharpening, understanding the old enemy, and trying to dismantle the silencing shield - constructed 1700 years ago and in some places still standing more or less intact.

 

Atheists don't hate Christians. I've never seen this in my 60 years. What Athiests hate is Christians (and other religious groups) attempting to put Atheists beneath them for the simple reason of non belief, as you've attempted to do in this thread.

Are Christians really that insecure?

 

I think many people are very distrustful of clerical garb because of the number of Catholic Priest child abusers, people tend to lump everyone in together and make baseless judgements. Exactly the same the majority of Muslims are judged because of the actions of a few.

Where as a priest or vicar was once seen as someone you could trust they are now seen as child molesters.

 

No, atheists are just paranoid. I, for one, wouldn'the give them a second thought if they weren'the so vociferously anti-Christian.

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I meet more than you would think.

 

I can't remember the last time I met a Christian. And I'm bloody serious here.

Do tell. Paranoid about what or who?

 

You do understand that the church has had unquestioned carte blanche for 1500 years, right? That they have compelled their religion upon the western world, and interference or challenge was met with violent death for most of that time?

Being vociferous is the very least we can do.

 

If I ever meet an atheist or leftist who isn't butt hurt over something they claim happened hundreds of years before they were born I am going to shake their hand and buy them a ten dollar cigar.

Very well, then, if that's the way you want it, I lay the blood of the martyrs at YOUR feet.

 

I'll bet you don't know how Bush won the presidency, either, since no one you know voted go or him.

 

That is the very essence of bigotry. I had thought at one time that we had progressed beyond that kind of ignorance but we seem to be going backwards.

 

Interesting the way you cannot see how contradictory the two statements are, you are happy to generalize about atheists and leftists but appalled that people generalize about clerical pedophiles!

 

Why should I really care?

 

I'll tell you one thing, I have met a lot more atheists and leftists with hard feelings over something that happened hundreds and thousands of years before they were born (they are all over this forum) than you have met pedophile priests.

 

Nothing positive nor negative because atheism isn't a belief or an entity and is thus incapable of influencing the world in any way.