What is a fact?

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  1. revol

    revol New Member

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    Yes, for you I would very much believe this to be true..... Opinions are one of those brilliant things, they don't hold up to reason and are easily destroyed.

    Let me show you how, the first part of your post is an opinion and it is unequivocally a false opinion.... Opinion is always changeable by superior reasoning; something like conscience like I was discussing before, it remains solid, convicting and permanently demonstrative.

    We demonstrate conscience when we seek to offer knowledge when questions are asked..... If we do so, well then there it is.... If we offer opinion, well then we are the ones that has something to learn providing someone can in result offer superior reason in response.... In either example, there is knowledge to be had; but what do you suppose is offered when the question is never answered?

    That's right folks.... NOTHING!

    As far as the word imagine, it's not in my wildest imagination that my mind is lost; so the use of the word having come from my mind is perfectly appropriate!
     
  2. revol

    revol New Member

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    Yes, in the contemplative sense absolutely..... Hypothetical life that is completely mapped out.... done!
    Hit replay, only it is you with every fiber the same; how can such a simple question be so difficult?

    Hello Hello Hello
     
  3. revol

    revol New Member

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    We already know the life is a murderer, how do you suppose we know this..... In the grand contemplative world, well we can do anything!
     
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    FreeWare Active Member Past Donor

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    Because I don't understand your question. Yep, I'm dumb (just to beat you to it).

    Isn't it an easier and much less hypothetical question to ask how a murderer can deviate from his current path?
     
  5. revol

    revol New Member

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    You have been placed in the very life of a murderer, rapist or thief.... Same soul, same spirit, same genetic makeup, same body of influence, every fiber of your being is identical..... How do you in effect deviate from the choices that have been made by this life?

    Fifth time asking the question......

    They happened at the same time, yours happened before theirs, theirs happened before yours, they happened in different universes..... It doesn't change the point of the question!
     
  6. revol

    revol New Member

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    Not at all, if we place ourselves in the exact shoes, we are forced to identify with it and take personal responsibility for what we claim our ability should or shouldn't be in their life, which has become ours.
     
  7. Incorporeal

    Incorporeal Well-Known Member

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    PERSONAL ATTACK: Attacking the messenger instead of the message. In this case, the message you agreed with, but then launched a personal message against the messenger.

     
  8. revol

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    You have demonstrated avoidance and diversionary tactics, can't get a straight answer out of you anywhere..... Of course you have probably never had such a problem communicating with anybody else but me right?
    Somehow, what? Do you believe you should be coddled, or do you ever consider perhaps you are the problem?

    I asked this simple question my third post on this thread, several pages later I still can't get a straight answer out of you...... Is it a personal attack if it's true?
     
  9. revol

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    You have been placed in the very life of a murderer, rapist or thief.... Same soul, same spirit, same genetic makeup, same body of influence, every fiber of your being is identical..... How do you in the effect through the identical position, deviate from the choices that have been made by this life?


    Sixth time asking the question...... Not a difficult question, only logical conclusion is blatant disregard.... Why would you avoid it?
     
  10. rstones199

    rstones199 Well-Known Member

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    Its called Sophism.

    And the OP is a master at it.
     
  11. Incorporeal

    Incorporeal Well-Known Member

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    If what is being done is so easily recognized by people such as yourself, then your comment is without merit, as no-one is being deceived.
     
  12. revol

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    No, nobody is being deceived by you but yourself!
     
  13. Incorporeal

    Incorporeal Well-Known Member

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    Then why are you concerned? Why is it an issue to you, if no-one is being adversely affected other than myself? Is your reason perhaps based on the possible fact that you might simply want to disrupt my right to freedom of speech? Or perhaps your reason might be that you want to hide the truth of what I am saying and subsequently keep throwing in straw arguments? Maybe it is as I said previously, that you are afraid that I might actually cause people to start using all the definitions as they are printed instead of obscuring those definitions with meaningless ramblings?
     
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    John Hinckley, Jr.

    John hinckley was only fooling himself....Why should we care? :roll:
     
  15. Incorporeal

    Incorporeal Well-Known Member

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    Why did you skip over this posting:
    "If what is being done is so easily recognized by people such as yourself, then your comment is without merit, as no-one is being deceived."

    If you care about John Hinclley, then do so. It has nothing to do with me. More of your off-topic BS.
     
  16. revol

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    You have been placed in the very life of a murderer, rapist or thief.... Same soul, same spirit, same genetic makeup, same body of influence, every fiber of your being is identical..... How do you in the effect through the identical position, deviate from the choices that have been made by this life?


    Seventh time asking the question......
     
  17. Incorporeal

    Incorporeal Well-Known Member

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    You can continue asking until the sun don't shine and the only response you will get is this:

    The questions you ask are pertaining to an imagination that you are suffering from; they have nothing to do with reality; nor do they have anything to do with the topic of this thread. All they amount to is more of your OFF-TOPIC rambling.

    Further: This posting will serve as a response to any further duplications of that same set of questions, or any of the other questions coming from you that are not directly related to the topic of this thread.

    Have a nice evening.
     
  18. rstones199

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    What about when the sun isn't shining? You claim to be from the SE part of the United States. This would put in the EST or at the very least CST. Either way the Earth has rotated to the point where the sun is no longer 'shinning' on you .

    Can you enlighten us for what type of answer you would give during this time period?

    This 'imagination' you speak of, can you tell us what it is?

    This 'reality' you speak of, can you tell us what it is?


    Which 'posting' are you referring too? There are 142 posts to choose from. Could you be more specif please?
     
  19. Incorporeal

    Incorporeal Well-Known Member

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    Relative geographic locations also has nothing to do with this thread. When the sun don't shine will be that time when the sun is completely extinguished.

    Last notice on the off-topic BS. Get back to the thread topic.
     
  20. rstones199

    rstones199 Well-Known Member

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    Geographic location does matter. I am looking out my window and I do not see the sun shinning. I can only assume the sun is not longer shinning.

    You stated that revol would receive the same answer until the sun no longer shines. We are at that point.
    So my question is, what kind of a response should we expect when the sun is not shinning?

    Also, to quote you:

    In order to properly respond to a post, a poster must first understand what the other poster is saying. Asking questions of what a poster means should be expected.

    Perhaps if you would answer said questions to begin with, then we could stay on topic. By continuously not answering questions on purpose is derailing the thread.

    Please answer the revol's question:

    and mine so we can get back on topic.
     
  21. Incorporeal

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    Argument of absurdity. Just because the sun is not shining in your location does not mean that the sun is not shining. Have a nice evening.
     
  22. revol

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    Can't even be trusted to practice what you preach
     
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    Incorporeal Well-Known Member

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    Go back and look, and you will see that it is not me that switched to 'another subject'. That was you, assisted by others.
     
  24. revol

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    A direct response to YOU asking you to explain an aspect of choice to gain a better understanding to how YOU use it in thought.

    NINE times asking the same question that has not changed as it pertains directly and specifically to choice and you still have not answered..... This thread has been derailed by you because 6 entire pages you have avoided the question at all cost..... WHY?
     
  25. revol

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    I have gone to great lengths to clarify the question, make it more user friendly.... Added soul, spirit (for you per your request), fiber of being to it, to make sure nothing of what I am asking is misunderstood.....
    Regardless, it still remains a direct response and question to the highlighted post above of YOURS!


    You have been placed in the very life of a murderer, rapist or thief.... Same soul, same spirit, same genetic makeup, same body of influence, every fiber of your being is identical..... How do you in effect through the identical position, deviate from the choices that have been made by this life?

    It's time that you practice what you preach and answer the question
     

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