What is logical and what is illogical?

I know it deep inside, like everybody does, even those who deny it and prefer to cling to their delusions.
It's logical and the truth.

Prove me wrong!

 

Then you do have a religious belief. The belief that gods are made up. That is a belief regarding those gods, and is subsequently a religious belief. Gods are a part of religion.

 

That's quite a good example of 'illogical' reasoning.

Is someone who believes football is for idiots a football fan? lol

 

Belief about religion != religious belief.

 

It appears your eyes and mind are closed...open them then when you ask yourself...how can I know there is a God? You will realize there are three sources of material.

First, there is the Bible. Second, there is nature. Third, there is man. These point to the Creator. None are possible by happenstance. None could have been produced by accident.

"Because that which is known about God is evident within them; for God made it evident to them." Romans. 1:19 ASV

 

Please look at this thread.

 

Get back to us when zeus or thor have a chat with you.

 

The only real God is the Christian God...any others are all false!...write that down in your notebook!

 

What has your favorite deity ever done that's godly since someone first created him? What's he doing that's godly now?

 

Do you not know the christian God is the same God as the Jews and muslims and mormons?
And zeus and thor were every bit as real to the greeks of that era.

 

That's an inaccurate statement.

 

That's quite a bigoted statement, most of mankind disagrees...

The later versions think it's the same God, the earlier ones disagree.
In Judaism (Abrahamic 1.1) Christianity and Islam are not recognised, Christianity recognises Judaism but not Islam, Islam claims to be based on both Judaism and Christianity.

And so the believers of the ONE TRUE GOD will continue to fight and kill each other.

 

Not to everyone. He/she is only real to those who believe he's real.
Just like zeus and thor. Maybe buddah.

 

Our Founding Fathers, Ordained and Established all the temporal, secular, and political morals we should require, under our common law system of justice; what is illogical, is any person claiming morals being repugnant to Their wisdom in our modern times.

 

Allah and the Jewish God of the Old Testament are very similar. Since the Jews and Arabs are half-brothers that's to be expected. The Jesus character of Christianity is different. Other than being a Jew and yapping about saving Israel he doesn't have very much in common with Judaism. And he has nothing in common with Allah.

 

Where have you been? It's a known fact the zeus and thor were both myths, meaning they're ficticious. Now budda on the otherhand was a real person, he lived 400 some yrs. before Jeus Christ if I'm not mistaken. He never claimed to be a god, he was a teacher of enlightenment.

 

You have proof that Zeus and Thor didn't exist?

The Bab claimed to be a God and he was a real person. In fact, his life is indepedently confirmed outside of the religious writings of his sect, unlike Jesus.

 

The latter and, I would add, the Main Stream Media has a strangle-hold on logic these days. The just-finished Presidential campaign saw most folks completely abandoning all logic as they voted for Obama and actually got their own logic to accept that Romney hated Blacks, Children, Women and Old Folks.

Obviously, logic does not have to be based on any intrinsic or inherently justifiable basis.

 

Yes I certainly do...if you go to the library their stories will be found in the fiction section, whereas if you look for the Holy Bible it will be found in the non-fiction section...just thought I throw that in too.

 

The Bhagavad Gita will be in the non-fiction section as well. Are Shiva and Vishnu real?

 

Humans decide where books get put in a library. Are you claiming that humans are infallible?

 

Uncle Ferd says...

... "Mens is logical...

... (`cept fer drunks)...

... an' womens is illogical."

 

Just to be clear, there's a difference between the identity of the god and the traits ascribed to said deity. Islam, Judaism, and Christianity all worship the same God, and generally speaking the leaders of the respective religions have agreed on this point (at least if you lump together Jesus with "the Father" as part of the trinity, since of course Muslims and Jews wouldn't recognize him individually as an aspect of the God of Abraham). There are certainly differences in how they each interpret the word of God, but then even within Christianity, the various denominations have never been able to reach a consensus. The early protestants in many ways felt a stronger connection to muslims than they did to catholics (at least according to wikipedia).

 

It's not the same god if it has different traits for different religions. Of course since they are all imaginary the god can be anything you want it to be. One thing is for certain. None of them, if they are the same or different, will ever manifest itself on Earth.

 

Well then we're starting to get into the semantics of identity. Two people can have different beliefs about a thing, but still both refer to it. I might think that my friend Bob is quite nice, while you might think he's too arrogant. But we're still both talking about the same person. Jews, Christians, and Muslims all worship "the god that appeared to Abraham", and I would argue that's sufficient to specify identity. What they disagree about are the aspects and wishes of this one deity that they all identity.

But yeah, given that it's probably all myth, it really only matters in that it can be a unifying point among all these people who otherwise hate each other.