What Is The Underlying Cause Of Astronomically High Black Crime Rates?

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What Is The Underlying Cause Of Astronomically High Black Crime Rates?

  1. Genetics

    23.2%
  2. Greed

    8.1%
  3. Low intelligence

    20.2%
  4. Poverty

    38.4%
  5. Other

    48.5%
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  1. Zook

    Zook New Member

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    The Zanzibar revolution was described as a genocide. You don't need to wipe out the entire opposition to defeat it.

    No Europeans have wiped out entire races and your whole argument is bizarre and weak.

    There is something wrong with that form of equality. Many things actually. I would've thought that was obvious to most sane individuals.

    1. That "form of equality" is backwards and childlike.

    2. It's anti-peace and it's counter-productive.

    3. No Whites living today enslaved anyone. Get over it.

    4. No blacks living today were ever slaves. Unless you're talking about the Philadelphia slave story where 4 disabled blacks were enslaved by fellow blacks and locked in a basement.

    If you're a White person, there's no excuse for saying such a pro-violent/pro-destruction thing. You wouldn't be singing that tune if you was living in a black majority neighborhood having family victimized everyday by ungrateful, malevolent blacks.
     
  2. danielpalos

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    I am not sure what you mean, if all they are really asking for is equality under the law.
     
  3. Zook

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    Wopper stopper is talking about black on White violence/crime.

    See?
     
  4. danielpalos

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    I can understand your point of view, but where I am coming from, is; would there be more or less crime under any circumstances, if we were moral enough to bear true witness to our own laws, and claim it is a form of equality as civil persons.
     
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    wopper stopper New Member

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    unless there are laws that make distinctions based on race.

    are there?
     
  6. Tank

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    Affrimative action laws.
     
  7. danielpalos

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    There may forms of distinctions arising from less effective public policy decisions which only have the effect of denying and disparaging individual liberty while not solving the social dilemma it was intended to solve.

    Our wasteful War on Drugs is an excellent example. Why are we not bearing true witness to the manifesto and Commandments specifically enumerated to us by our Founding Fathers, simply for the sake of morals and that form of moral absolutism?
     
  8. Polar Bear

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    Note:

    Heritable genetic traits, such as propensity to commit crime, rape, and steal, have NOTHING to do with SKIN COLOR, but have everything to do with how different peoples' brains are wired, which is why crime rates are vastly different in countries like Sweden, Norway and Finland than Haiti, Jamaica and Burkina Faso. For thousands of years, impulsive behavior was a survival trait in some parts of the world, while "delayed gratification" and "planning for the winter" were important survival traits in other regions, mainly Europe and Asia.



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  9. hiimjered

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    The more I think of it, the more I believe there might be something to what you've written here.

    There are huge cultural differences between equatorial and temperate native cultures. One group valued delayed gratification, the other focused more on immediate desires. One group tended to more highly value personal property rights. One group tended to value technological improvement and improving lifestyles, the other tended to be content to just live in their current situations.

    Whether the cause of that behavior continuing in today's society is due to genetic predisposition or some kind of cultural adaptation, there may be something to this idea.
     
  10. Polar Bear

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    World IQ Map:

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    That's pretty false. Nordic countries have small populations spread out over relatively large areas. You also had pretty bloody conflicts throughout the European continent for centuries. Far more than in Africa or other warmer areas. By the end of World War 2, Europe had been in a state of near constant conflict for almost a thousand years, with continent-wide conflicts for the last 500 years.

    They were motivated by pure greed and gratification, just like everyone else.
     
  12. Polar Bear

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    The Khoisan peoples inhabited Southern Africa pre-1600, which was VERY sparsely populated before Dutch settlers started building farms and cities on the Cape. The population density in Southern Africa was similar to Australia before British colonization. Yet the Khoisan people still bathed in cow urine and engaged in hunter gatherer living well into the 20th Century, even after decades of exposure to European technology. Now they are pretty much extinct due to interbreeding with Bantus who immigrated en mass from Equatorial Africa for 300 years.

    Europeans certainly fought each other throughout the centuries, but the same was true of Africans. Ethnic factions all over Africa battled each other for thousands of years. The only reason African history is so illusive lies in the fact that not a single African tribe ever developed a written language capable of recording history in any detail. Bantu languages are primitive, lacking words to describe time, location, motive, etc.
     
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    As did the Aboriginees of Austrailia, and various Native American tribes in North and South America. That's a common theme with isolated groups of people. They tend to lose a technological advantage to other people who are more engaged in trade. When China cut itself off to trade in the 14th century, the same thing occurred. China was on the verge of entering an Industrial Revolution 300 years before Europe. However, when they decided to look inward instead of trade with its neighbors, it became a stagnant, backwards country.




    Are we now talking about why Africans are primitive? Europeans were primitive until the Romans spread civilization and Christianity to them. The relatively small size of the continent didn't hurt either.

    The ethnic battles in Africa don't hold a candle to the continent-wide conflicts that engulfed Europe. That's really the point of this discussion. You originally stated that people living in warmer climates aren't patient, or are more akin to run on their desires instead of plan and develop. European history proves that assertion utterly false, because Europe itself has been a hotbed of irrationality and utter destruction for centuries now. If not for the intervention of the United States after the second world war, the entire continent would be a third world wasteland.
     
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    Incredible amount of balderdash here. First you say if it wasn't for the Romans and Christianity that Europe would be primitive, and then you say if not for the U.S. intervention in Europe after WWII that Europe would be a wasteland. Say what? Europe and more specific...England gave America its foothold into becoming the world's greatest power--not the other way around, so Europe was never going to be this thrird world wasteland. Europe is the birthplace of some of our greatest writers, philosophers, thinkers, movers and shakers to world history.

    Africa is still living by perhaps 16th century standards, and obama's brother still lives in a shack on 50 cents a month.
     
  15. Hanzou

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    You do understand that the Roman Empire and WW2 were thousands of years apart right?

    Actually most of Africa is well into the 21st century. You need to educate yourself.
     
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    If Africans and Europeans are EQUAL, why are Africans still fumbling with the basics, like dealing with raw sewage in streets and digging water wells so people don't have to walk to the nearest cesspool to get drinking water? These problems were solved in Europe thousands of years ago (Greece, Rome, etc.)

    Why is it that Japan and Korea (two high-IQ countries) were able to immediately seize upon and replicate European science within a decade of exposure to it, while Africans, after having been exposed to European science and techniques for centuries (ever since Portuguese and Dutch settlement in the early 1600s), are still twitting their thumbs?



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    Yeah, so what?




    I need to educate myself? LOL!

    How civilized and modern do you think those Somalians are when they terrorize their own people. You might recall the 'Blackhawk Down' incident. And how about those Somalian pirates who murder Americans and others on the high seas? And how about the entire country suffering and dying from malaria, dysentery, murder, AIDS, canabalism and hunger etc. Babies are dying by the hundreds and thousands daily without a hope or prayer of saving them in sight. How are the people doing down in South Africa where the ANC has terrorized and murdered many of them? How are the people in Algeria, Libya and Egypt fairing up in the North? :omg:
     
  18. Hanzou

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    A city in Nigeria:

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    A city in Botswana:

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    A city in Kenya:

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    A city in Uganda:

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    I didn't know there were Skyscrapers, automobiles, airplanes, and highways in Ancient Rome and Greece.

    Because Japan and Korea are countries, not entire continents. All of Asia didn't replicate European science within a decade of European exposure. Look at the Phillipines. Look at Indochina. Look at Mongolia. Look at Indonesia.

    Btw, Native Americans are of the same "race" as Koreans and Japanese and they didn't replicate European science after hundreds of years of European contact.
     
  19. Hanzou

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    The fall of Rome and the dissemination of Greco-Roman thought has nothing to do with the downfall of Europe after the second world war. Again, if not for the Marshall plan and the American military for stability, Europe would be a third world continent right now.


    Sounds like a typical third world nightmare. No different than what's occuring in Asia, South America, and even in parts of Europe.
     
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    The roads: built with European imported machinery, using European engineers, supervisors, and oversight. Financed by the white Western taxpayers through the IMF and the World Bank.

    The buildings: designed by European or Asian architects, using European/Asian engineers, foreign non-African labor, European cranes, etc.


    BTW Zimbabwe's capital Harare (used to be Salisbury) has a nice skyline that was mostly built before the 1980s, after which time whites were ethnically cleansed from the country, and thus all new construction and economic growth stopped.


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    No different than what Japan did during the Meiji era when they brought in European and American experts to redesign their military and infrastructure. They (and the Koreans) did it again after World War 2.

    Why is it okay for East Asians to do this but not Africans?
     
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    they aren't getting enough welfare granted many poor people don't become criminals but the likelyhood is greater for those who are poor even in poor white america.

    also in poor white states the police are less likely to arrest criminal whites because they empathize with them and the social structures in poor white areas allow for poor white criminals to get away with crime easier
     
  23. Polar Bear

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    It only took a couple decades before Japan mastered European scientific methods and became a full swing industrialized country. It was a quick, painless transformation - and they did it living on a tiny rock with few natural resources.

    After three centuries of exposure to European technology brought by Portuguese, Dutch, Italian, Belgian and German settlers, Africa as a whole is still fumbling with the basics like raw sewage running through streets. You can't say Africa is deprived of natural resources, just IQ.
     
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    Social Darwinism was disproved ages ago people, that is a /fail discussion.
     
  25. Zook

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    *Looks at your post*

    *Looks at your avatar*

    *Looks back at your post*

    *Looks at your sig*

    *Looks back at your post*

    Yeah, you're not worth taking seriously at all...
     
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