What Is The Underlying Cause Of Astronomically High Black Crime Rates?

Identical twin studies are probably the best means of testing we have. (two identical twins separated at birth and sent to completely different families) It's been observed that they have very similar personality's, interests, and IQ test scores despite being raised in completely different environments.

 

You talk like you've never met a black "person" in your entire life.

Yeah, there's no problem with crime in the black community... you keep telling yourself that.

 

Why do you act like meeting a black person means anything? I know two black people and guess what? They aren't criminals or poor.

And I think you can do without the scare quotes around "person".

 

Can you prove this?

 

Which would render the strength of indoctrination on highly impressionable youth useless, correct? If so... we can safely say that a twin child being raised in a jihadist terror camp will display similar personalities with his/her twin raised under atheist parents. That's what we're to believe... yes?

I am black... and your failure to refute that data hasn't gone unnoticed.

Sure... let's take a look back at my claim:

.01% of the U.S. black population are arrested for the most violent crimes annually... even lower for other crimes.​

So, we'll use murder as an example. In 2009, there were a total of 4,801 blacks arrested for murder... and that figure remains fairly consistent with each passing year (not counting recidivism). As of 2010, there are 42,020,743 blacks in the United States. That means that annually, 0.01% (or 4,801) of the U.S. black population are arrested for the most violent crimes annually.

 

I don't consider blacks people and I'll refuse to acknowledge them as such until they learn how to behave in a civilized manner. That's my right and I'm sticking to it.

They don't deserve the title of being called people.

Yeah, I suspected as much...

I don't discuss racial issues with black "people." I don't see the point. So this'll be my last ever post to you.

What I will say is murder isn't the be all and end all of violent crime. You also don't take into consideration the amount of blacks already locked up in prison unable to get out and murder innocent people and the fact that many blacks get away with murder or are still on the run. To suggest that .01% of the U.S. black population are arrested for the most violent crimes annually is an absolute joke and no one is buying it. Your species is a huge problem within all civilized societies on the planet. Everybody knows it... just go take a look at the poll results in my Is Black Crime An Epidemic? thread.

Don't bother replying, I really don't care about blacks' delusional opinions on anything.

 

Another vote for culture.

The End of Racism: Principles for a Multiracial Society

http://www.amazon.com/End-Racism-Principles-Multiracial-Society/dp/0684825244/ref=ntt_at_ep_dpt_10

This book will explain its origins.

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Then you clearly need to take the blinders off and realize that not all of them are the same.

 

It is almost HUMOROUS that you and people wielding your mindset, are often (in my experience) the SAME people who wouldn't give one iota of consideration to the possibility that a homosexual person might be affected by something 'genetic'. In any case, it's typically something that comes from ignorance, fear and irrational animus.

I've met MANY scary people of virtually every ethnic group. And I have over 3 decades of military experience, which tells me that people are pretty much the same, especially when it comes to being violent. (We don't train people to harness that properly for nothing.)

Anyway, you're making a rather sensational suggestion, that you should likely support unequivocally... or just identify your commentary as being purely your OPINION. I'll grant that a person's cultural experiences likely could contribute to their sensibilities and/or behavior as related to "violence"... but your suggestion that it somehow or may be "genetic" is (IMO) just noise you're throwing up for the sake of putting something on these web pages.

 

Living in a bubble is a good way to prevent from realizing when you're incorrect on things, so I understand. Why you've "decided" not to address my points is also obvious...

you're struggling.

I posted an arrest rate statistic, and in order to be convicted... you first need to be arrested. I also noted that the .01% figure doesn't even include recidivism, which will likely drop the figure lower. Unsolved crimes aren't worthy of mention, because it's speculative... without proof, you haven't a claim to make.

No one's refuting it, either. I don't expect you to buy it, as doing so would mean your core premise and philosophy are a sham... and that's much more a difficult epiphany to realize than mere statistics. I've shown you the numbers... refute them.

 

Johnny-C, if personality and aggression is partly genetic for one group, then it's genetic for everyone, regardless of race or ethnic group. I agree that there are violent people in every ethnic group. It just means that a violent white person's behavior is also probably partly genetic There is more genetic variability within the races then between them, so that's why it makes no sense to judge someone based solely on their race. But, as a race is simply an extended family, they are bound to share some common characteristics.

I also don't appreciate you making a judgement about my feelings towards homosexuals. I think there's a strong possibility that homosexuality has a genetic component. (Well, I certainly don't think that it's a 'choice')

What we do know for certain is that the mind isn't a tabula rasa. The book "The Blank Slate: The Modern Denial of Human Nature" gives a good insight into the subject.

 

Not all of them are violent monsters, I know, but even the law-abiding ones fail to show all the human emotions that a regular person of another race does.

There's always exceptions to the rule, of course.

 

A lack of sufficient morals to bear true witness to our own laws. That is the cause of many of our current social dilemmas today.

 

Violence is genetic -- and it's endemic to ALL HUMANS. You should read about medieval tortures of heretics, Roman executions, and Viking Barbarians sometime. Have you ever heard of Vlad the Impaler? He's the guy Dracula is partially based on. He got his nickname for shoving pointy sticks through people and then hoisting them in the air by that stick -- it took ours or days before the poor bastards finally died. Sophisticated Brits in the 1600's would burn people alive with gun powder around their necks. All hail whitey the non-violent!

 

I agree. Where did I say otherwise?

Over time, people have become less violent, all over the world. However, some groups remain on average more violent then others.

 

Would black crime rates be astronomically high, if an individual could apply for unemployment compensation when that person could claim to be unemployed?

If not, does it matter if violence is a genetic trait, under some circumstances?

 

Hardly.
It just goes in cycles. In fact I would argue that man has created more extreme and efficient methods of ending someone in the modern era to an extent where we can and have wiped out thousands of people in a matter of seconds. That and the progressive nature of the arms industry means this trend of extermination shows no sign of rest.

 

http://www.ted.com/talks/steven_pinker_on_the_myth_of_violence.html

Pinker has a new book on the subject, in fact:
[ame="http://www.amazon.com/Better-Angels-Our-Nature-Violence/dp/0670022950"]Amazon.com: The Better Angels of Our Nature: Why Violence Has Declined (9780670022953): Steven Pinker: Books[/ame]

That's not to say that we won't get more violent in the future though.

 

Steven Pinker???

You may as well quote Pingu the penguin, like who cares what he thinks.

 

And you think this because...?

 

Would crime rates be astronomically high, if an individual could apply for unemployment compensation when that person could claim to be unemployed?

Why not end our War on Crime and lower our tax burden in the process, simply by solving for a "natural rate of unemployment"?

 

I say the fact that people who currently get as much or more money from welfare programs commit crimes would indicate that yes, even if we allowed them to claim unemployment at will, many of the same people would continue to commit crimes.

 

Because black crime has little to do with poverty for the many reasons given in the OP... duhhh!

 

Many people on welfare, may or may not be above the official poverty line; and, means tested welfare is not very market friendly and is very expensive to administer.

So, from that perspective, simply using welfare as an example could be a potential false analogy. Although, I do agree that even people who are not in official poverty commit crimes; it may be different if any person could simply ask them why they do what they do, if they cannot claim to be in official poverty.

What would be wrong with being a good Capitalist with their capital, such that they don't have to lie about their "portfolio"?

 

Simply jumping on the band wagon without your logic and reason is not very very convincing, see above.