What sin has God condemned you for?

Perhaps you are right on the possibilities that could lay ahead of us in the future. Time will tell.

 

Shouldn't the question be" is there any sin god "hasn't" condemned you for?

 

I had not included all the thought sins but you make a decent point.

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DL

 

Another question that could be pondered is: Who are the ones that God condemns for their sins?

 

Hmm.

I see us collectively as not being particularly self-centered. Check the charity stats and note how generous we are. Further, fro9m a collective POV, these stats show you quite wrong.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbkSRLYSojo

You want us to bow to the same natural law, evolution, which consists of cooperation and competition, right after bad-mouthing it.

You have not thought things through well. May I invite you to read this O.P. and opine.

http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=364178&p=1064052663#post1064052663

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DL

 

I do not believe that Jesus was as described in the bible. As a Gnostic Christian, I see him as an archetype that we are to emulate. From a moral POV, I cannot see Jesus as God demanding his own death to appease his own wrath against mankind. God, as a judge who demands and accepts bribes and sacrifices is too foolish to even contemplate as real.

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DL

 

Actually, I don't see Jesus as God either. Jesus was the man. The Christ is that part of Jesus that was God in the flesh. Of course, Gnosticism probably forbids such thinking... (i'm not really sure on that point, but it is my guess). When Jesus (the man) died on the cross, God did not die... Should one decide to acknowledge the distinction between Jesus and the Christ, then matters become so much easier to understand and comprehend.

 

Your answer smack of semantics but it could just be me and my use of language.

So if your child goes to the corner store and steals a chip, you will have him apologise yet not seek to be forgiven. Is that right?

Then why is he apologising at all?

If I were to say to someone that I apologise for lying about him, for instance, but indicate that I do not care if he forgives me or not, then am I not indicating that my apology is meaningless and shallow?

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DL

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This I know. Thanks.

Jews even think of Eden as man's place of elevation and not the fall that Christianity put on it. They did it to create false guilt for the money. IMO.

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DL

 

So you do not see the killing spree that Constantine pushed his new church to do to all those who did not believe as his church right after he bought it and rigged the vote on the Trinity concept as not the act of a tyrannical government and church.

Rather blind that.

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DL

 

Scriptures say that the vast majority of us are on the wide road to hell. Yet those on the narrow road to heaven do not seem to care that they will have to watch most of their loved ones burning forever at their feet.

Seems those on that narrow road can only fit there because they have no human heart.

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DL

 

If I may butt in. One doesn't apologize seeking forgiveness. That would be nice, perhaps desired. But one apologizes because they realize they've done a wrong to another and actually are sorry for doing that. One can't control whether or not another will actually forgive, that is up to the wronged person.

 

And as the poster told you, he doesn't believe Jesus is God. I'd say 95+% of christianity believe in the triune. So, most of christianity is wrong and is not on the narrow path, which would be very very narrow if the triune is wrong. Or the poster is on a path with the bulk of the rest of us.

 

Forget that. Take the Christ out of Jesus and Christians lose their messiah and Christianity disappears completely without their scapegoat.

That is why Christians sing a hymn of Adams happy fault and necessary sin.

They do not care that God set up the whole immoral deal.

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DL

 

I would say neither.

That is correct. The object of apologizing is to make known the individuals recognition that a wrong was committed by that individual. If an apology is warranted by the person who is receiving the apology then that would be well and fine. If one is not so warranted, then at least my child would know that he/she did the right thing in making the apology.

Explained above.

Not in my opinion. That person you were apologizing to would be the one who would have to justify in his/her mind as to whether or not your apology was meaningful. Of course, if you offered the apology without it containing any merit at all, then your apology would be meaningless anyway. So, either you apologize with sincereness in heart and accept where the chips may fall, else you apologize and not have any degree of sincerity, then it makes no difference if the person gives forgiveness or not. Would person or the other or even both will prove their character by the transaction and its results.

 

I agree that it is to the victim to forgive.
Consider that if you are apologizing just to make yourself feel better and are self-forgiving yourself, then your gesture is completely self-serving.

Hardly a moral situation that.

Reverse the situation. If someone apologizes to you, by accepting that apology, are you not forgiving him?

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DL

 

I would say that 95% of most believers do not believe at all.

My evidence showing that they do not follow their religion but are just following culture and tradition.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iV2VjdpVonY

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DL

 

I reject your way as it denies the victim closure and makes you apology completely self serving.

http://www.thepowerofforgiveness.com/pdf/A_Jewish_Perspective_on_Forgiveness.pdf

Your way might have some value for the more meaningless affronts but anything that is of a higher insult needs more.

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DL

 

If one is not sincere in there apology then it is completely self-serving. If you are sincere and the other party doesn't forgive it is not self-serving, IMO. One did a great wrong or the other person just is a bitter person. In the case of a bitter person, they may never forgive.

It really depends on the reason needing to apologize. I'd like to think I can forgive anything, but I'm sure there may be some unforgivable transgression.

 

I didn't watch your video, but I'd say they all believe. Just not all believe the same. Each person twists bits and pieces to fit their lifestyle and beliefs.

 

Reject it all you want. I care not.

 

To the ancient Jews, the only ones I have any literature on in terms of person to person forgiving only murder and even then, as in the case of the holocaust, the Jews collectively forgave Germany after they apologised. The seeking of forgiveness was assumed.

http://www.thepowerofforgiveness.com/pdf/A_Jewish_Perspective_on_Forgiveness.pdf

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DL

 

In the Netherland if I recall the numbers correctly, something like 90% of the population call themselves Christian. Something like 2% attend their churches.

I think your number of believers is inflated but I understand if you do not believe my numbers.

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DL

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I suspected as much. I do not see a lot of morality or social conscience in you.

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DL

 

"What sin has God condemned you for?"

I like modern day clothes and shrimp... guess I am going to hell

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And I am supposed to be concerned with what you see? I am supposed to accept what you say when you openly reject the suggestions that I make? LOL.

 

You can make up any scenario you want, and extend judgement on others however you choose. It has zero effect on the nature of God, or my belief in Him.