Whistleblower Has Three Potential Biases Against Trump

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  1. lpast

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    And? Doesn’t change the content of the call in the slightest bit, does it?
     
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    Which one?
    But who cares? The impeachment case doesn’t hinge on the WB. It relies on proving the claims.
     
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    IF the WB doesn’t like trump we must ignore the transcript, the text messages and trumps confession.
     
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    The witness to a bank robbery hates bank robbers - therefor we can’t use his testimony in a bank robbery case.

    This is what Trump FanBoys are arguing for.
     
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    The Whistleblower has nothing to do with Trump's 2nd(that we know about) attempt to engage a foreign government in our elections when he asked the Chinese. And the WB has nothing to do with Tuesday's White House announcement that they exist beyond the oversight authority of the Legislative branch and will not cooperate resulting in Trump to order his administration to all be complicit and active in obstruction of justice. The White House does not have the authority to decide whether or not it will submit to oversight. That in itself is a crime.
     
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    I didn't read the attachment. There's no reason because it doesn't mean squat. The White House has agreed that what the whistle blower said was true. TRY AND PUT A SPIN ON THAT! :)
     
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    Except he made it up.
     
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    We have the transcript of the call so WTF are you talking about.
     
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    Me thinks the Republicans are getting incredibly desperate.

    "First, our client has never worked for or advised a political candidate, campaign, or party. Second, our client has spent their entire government career in apolitical, civil servant positions in the Executive Branch. Third, in these positions, our client has come into contact with presidential candidates from both parties in their roles as elected officials – not as candidates. Fourth, the whistleblower voluntarily provided relevant career information to the ICIG in order to facilitate an assessment of the credibility of the complaint. Fifth, as a result, the ICIG concluded – as is well known – that the complaint was both urgent and credible."
     
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    No, it doesn't change the transcript which fully exonerated Trump but it does shed light on the "whistleblower's" lies, distortions, smear and potential violations of law.
     
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    Even worse, an anonymous tipster hates bank robbers so we have to ignore the video evidence and their confession lol
     
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    Where was the "or else"? He made a request in accordance with a treaty between the U.S. and the Ukraine, one that Bill Clinton signed.
     
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    Everyone has a political bias. Bias isn't an evil, it's a useful evolutionary tool that helps us survive in nature. Should we trust your bias more than someone's that's against Trump? No. Bias can be filtered out easily by using data. If enough data doesn't support the narrative, then it can be attributed purely to bias and thrown out. But so far, no one is saying the data does that. In fact, the data is supporting the opposite. So it's YOUR bias that's the problem here.
     
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    Bring him forward to testify.
     
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    The treaty says get your lawyer to dig up dirt and publicly announce an invesigation or you don’t get military aid?
     
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    Good thing trump doesn’t have bias against Biden or we’d have to ignore his BS allegations against Joe
     
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    "Fully exonerates Trump."

    Meanwhile...

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    Ukraine president says there was ‘no blackmail’ in call with Trump

    Is there some part of "The whistleblower isn't credible" you don't understand?
     
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    Which might make sense if Trump has just asked that Ukraine investigate corruption in general. But he didn’t. He specifically singled out a political rival and asked for a favor on digging dirt on that specific person.
     
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    A graph from an unknown source........really?
     
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    A graph from an unknown source........really?
     
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    Are you having a bad day? You're usually sharper than that. How could he have made up something when the White House has confirmed it??

    Do you think the president of Ukraine wants to tell the truth and really get trump pissed off at him? Come on. You know human nature better than that. The last thing he wants is trump pissed off at him, Every one knows that and you should too.
     
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    He doesn’t need to. He stepped up presented his evidence to the IG. Trump provided the transcript which verified the whistle-blowers claim that there was a call. It’s up to Congress to determine if the call is appropriate or not. The whistle-blower’s opinion from this point on is irrelevant.
     
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    And what is in the transcript that points to Trump, nothing. Just another baseless attack on Trump
     
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