White House falsely claims there was no vaccine when Biden took office

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  1. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I think he was wrong to say it, I said so at the time
     
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    That wasn't the question. It was a blatantly racist comment and there is ample examples out there of his racist views. Heck, his own VP called him out of a few of them.
     
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    The process for creating them, not this specific COVID but so what? It was operation Warp Speed the cut through all the government red tape and provided the companies the resources and guaranties they needed, a government/business partnership as private businessman Trump was able to put together.
    It was all there for Biden when he took office he himself had already been vaccinated.
     
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    no it was not blatant racism, bad choice of words
     
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    only cause Trump was not capable of doing it without warp speed, Biden has approved the covid pill and other covid vaccines without it - trump was not capable and his people knew it
     
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    He literally said your not black if you don't vote for him. That's not a bad choice of words! That is calling people of color that don't vote for him an Uncle Tom and no one should excuse such blatant racist speak.

    Again, racism is okay as long as you have a (D) behind your name.. Remember this LA Times op'ed headline? → Larry Elder is the Black Face of White Supremacy. You’ve Been Warned
     
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    it was saying he did not understand how a black person could support Trump, many wonder that - but agree, bad choice of words
     
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    I sourced there was a general lack of communication. I showed you with a hypothetical situation how such a thing can unfold.
    You however have no source disputing that the communication was fine. All you got going is that vaccines were delivered, but fail to provide if they were delivered where needed due to a general lack of communication.
     
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    Pfizer, what got mostly used was invented in the EU. People like to call it Pfizer, but it's actually Pfizer-BioNTech. The BioNTech part were the inventers. It's a company run German immigrant Muslims. Pfizer just copied it like a cheep Chinese nock of factory would. The Oxford vaccine is a good 2nd. The American Moderna is just 3rd and 4 times less used what the EU is responsible for. What Trump did is actually rather limited with his "warp speed".
     
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    America's vaccine rollout has been among the best in the world

    America’s much-maligned vaccine rollout is actually going relatively well, at least compared to other wealthy countries.

    The big picture: The U.S. has carried out more vaccinations than any country in the world, and given a first dose to a higher percentage of its population (12%) than all but five countries: Israel, the Seychelles, the UAE, the U.K. and Bahrain.

    • In fact, the U.S. is distributing doses three times as quickly as the EU, adjusted for population, and nearly five times as quickly as Canada.
    The backstory: The U.S. has some major advantages over most of the world. Not only does America have the money to reserve more doses than it could possibly use, it also has the capacity to manufacture them domestically.

    • Canada’s slow rollout and the recent dispute over doses between the EU and U.K. have underlined the difficulties of relying on imports.
    • The U.S. also made massive bulk purchases early — through the Trump administration’s Operation Warp Speed — and thus ramped up production capacity while securing its spot at the front of the line.
    • The EU moved more slowly both in securing contracts and in approving vaccines, and has paid a price. Israel, by contrast, paid a premium and promised valuable data to get Pfizer’s vaccine early.
    • It also helps that the two most effective vaccines on the market were developed entirely (Moderna) or partially (Pfizer/BioNTech) in the U.S.
    Between the lines: Despite crumbling infrastructure and chaotic politics, the U.S. remains a scientific, technological and manufacturing powerhouse. That has played to its advantage, as has the sense of urgency with which the U.S. approached the vaccination challenge.

    • Some wealthy countries that haven't been hit as hard by the pandemic, like Japan and South Korea, have been much slower to administer vaccines.
    https://www.axios.com/2021/02/21/vaccine-distribution-by-country-us-rollout-doses

    You seem to forget the Biden ran on declaring he would have a million does with in months after being sworn in and in fact we were already meeting that goal and more.


    "President Joe Biden this week boasted on Twitter about his promise to administer 100 million vaccine doses in his first 100 days in office, “With the progress we’re making I believe we’ll not only reach that, we’ll break it.” But as some critics have noted, it was a pretty low bar to begin with.

    On the day Biden was inaugurated, the U.S. administered nearly 1.5 million shots, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s COVID Data Tracker. On that day, the seven-day average for the previous week was about 966,000 shots a day. In other words, the U.S. was already virtually at the pace Biden set as his goal before he took any action as president.

    By Biden’s second day in office, the seven-day average was at the 1 million doses per day average needed to meet his 100-day goal."
    https://www.factcheck.org/2021/02/factchecking-bidens-vaccination-goal/
     
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    Your article was at the start of the rollout in februari, when the US started vaccinating earlier then most of the EU.
    Eventually operation "warp speed" stalled after some months, while EU countries surpassed the US as a steady pace.
    Point stands that there was a failure going on under Trump.


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    Well look at the graph. Does it look like Trump was reaching a million in June and later?


    Your article reads:
    The average was about 400- to 500,000 prior to that. Last week, the average was 1.7 million a day.

    So Biden kicked in an other 700.000 a day next to that 1 million.
    That's impressive as hell. Thanks for sourcing it.
     
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