White House falsely claims there was no vaccine when Biden took office

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  1. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    Nobody vetted it nobody even thought about it till the Clinton campaign came up with it and the Dems love to create their boogie men which he used this for and instead of sending a letter to Hawaii to release the original BC which had the full information he played just as Trump did, sorry you might have fallen for the charade and Obama the PRESIDENT should not have kept that hanging as he did it not serve the country well.

    Here is what I said in March of 2011

    Is ALL the vital information contained in the COB on the COLB? No. Hawaii law requires access to ALL vital information. There is no law which prevents the release of all vital information. There is a policy the department uses for routine request of a birth certificate that does not trump the law nor your right to ALL your vital information.

    End of story. He can release it. He should release it and end the controversy.
    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...g-lived-ct-died-hi.176759/page-6#post-3619188

    I agree that he should release ALL his vital information and end the matter. When it shows he was born in Hawaii that ends the matter of his citizenship. Then Apuzzo can discuss why his SS# begins with whatever it begins with.

    Do you agree that once the vital information is release it will lower the 43% who have questions to about 1%?
    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...g-lived-ct-died-hi.176759/page-5#post-3616183

    Do you agree there is NO reasonable reason not to have ALL the vital information of our sitting President made public?
     
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  2. WillReadmore

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    That's not how it works.

    The strains coming in from Europe are well identified. It's also known what strains are south of our border and in Asian countries.

    When someone gets COVID, science knows where it came from.

    What we see concerning "Hispanics did it" is just straight up ignorance and hate.
     
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    False. Obama was vetted just like every other candidate.

    What YOU are talking about is how the US should have gone after white supremacists.

    There is a lot of study concerning how to go about that. In the context of a campaign, it's highly unlikely that directly and publicly confronting white supremacists with their blatant lies would have helped Obama's campaign.

    And, Trump demonstrated that it certainly did NOT slow white supremacists when the truth was totally laid out for all to see. He still kept pumping the point that Obama was a Kenyan Muslim - even though it had LONG been proven that he was born in the USA and was a Christian of long standing.

    The truth doesn't slow racists. They have NO interest in the truth in terms of adjusting their opinions.
     
  4. Bluesguy

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    Nope else Clinton wouldn't have started it, the only vetting was he released a document which was not even a copy of the original. I was editing my my post as you typed so I will give you a chance to go back and read.
     
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    Wow....that was a giant ball of nothing.

    Baseless talking point after baseless talking point.

    Thanks though, I was just curious.
     
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    you call what Biden said merely "a little bit of rhetoric"
     
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    but then what would Kamala do?
     
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    Ok Illegals are the only ones not spreading it. Amazing.
     
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    and Republicans still attacked him, that is the point, those Republicans did not care about the facts
     
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    Hm, I can think of canceling a pipeline for one of those things. Also, as I recall their policies regarding freight shipping has made the supply chain issue worse. So, I have two things of noteworthy attention.
     
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    "Cancelling pipelines" has already been completely debunked as a potential cause of CURRENT gas prices....

    But if you have a link for item #2, provide it and I'll give it a read....
     
  12. Bluesguy

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    As I said Obama and apperently you still try to milk it. And Democrats still attack Trump as a Russia agent.
     
  13. WillReadmore

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    No, that is not how presidential candidates are vetted.

    Those doing that work go to the source, not some document that candidates release.
     
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    After all documents were released, Trump claimed he had information proving Obama was a Kenyan Muslim that he would release at some point.
     
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    That is NOT what was being claimed.

    What was claimed was that we were getting COVID from sources south of our border through people traveling here from there.

    And, that claim is BS.

    We got COVID from Europe. Epidemiologists determined that by examining the viruses that Americans were contracting and finding that they were identical to European variants, not those of some other location.
     
  16. Bluesguy

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    They were trying to but Obama would not release it until a couple of years after he had milked it as long as he could.
     
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    Your idea FAILED.

    The truth came out.

    Trump and other white supremacist Republicans STILL proclaimed long and loud that Obama was a Kenyan Muslim.

    What you are missing is that this isn't about the truth. It's about hate. Hate doesn't give a crap about the truth.
     
  18. Bluesguy

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    What idea FAILED, sorry but I had no part in what they did. I never said Obama was a Muslim or not a citizen. I argued he should have released ALL the documents from the get go and settled the matter. I explained why he didn't and why Trump used it for his own self promotion.
     
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    Interesting.. but if you claim something is 0 and it is in fact not 0, then I have a hard time accepting that statement as being mostly true. Also, where would you get the idea that I had nothing to say about Trump's election fraud claims?
     
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    Your argument is that doing what white supremacists demanded would solve the problem.

    And, THAT idea of yours totally failed.
     
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    Thing is. Highly paid people explain things, but it did not really work because there was a lack of Federal control. Your source admits to this by saying:
    “It's just that last mile of turning a vaccine into a vaccination where faltering was happening, because the states were not adequately supported,” said Dr. Amesh Adalja, a senior scholar at the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security and infectious disease expert.

    The entire idea of Trump was that vaccinations were send to states themselves, and then it's not Trumps problem anymore. And so HE had no plan how the jab would actually end up in an arm. It is what it is.

    And last time I checked, a tweet is limited in words. The amount of people getting vaxxed under Trump was abysmal. Millions of vials were just doing nothing. It is what it is. And with that, it's not some like similar to Trump claiming all kinds of things about votes and elections. We all know you're kind is trying to make some kind of comparison with that.
     
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    I asked first:
    nd what's the problem with a statement that's mosly true?
    Trump yelled at top of his twitter account that the elections were stolen.
    Where were you lot when that happened?
     
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    Because the MSM, nor Twitter (for now), or even the White House itself will come out and debunk it, or eat a little crow and admit they misspoke. But between this and the "we need to increase corporate taxes to reduce inflation" comment, whoever said the person in charge of that Twitter account needs to be canned is correct. Unless Joe himself is behind it and doesn't care.

    It's like @Steve N said, by tomorrow millions of his Twitter followers will read that, believe it, and take it to heart, giving Biden credit for something he had less than nothing to do with.

    No vaccine in the history of vaccines has been developed and approved for use that quickly, and while Trump didn't do the science himself (nor would I expect any POTUS to do so), he was driving the boat, and making the decisions.

    This is just another example of Biden and co's desperation going into what they know will be a bloodbath for them in the midterms. They're grasping at straws and are clearly not afraid to outright fabricate lies and bullshit in an effort to retain voters, but it's too little, too late. But even when the GOP is running Congress, unless they can manage to get bipartisan veto overrides, it's not going to be a walk in the park for them (or the American People), either. There's so much that needs doing, especially on the energy front, but Biden will just veto anything the Squad doesn't approve of, so getting Keystone XL moving again, opening up ANWR and the Gulf to drilling, and so many things that need to happen sadly won't.
     
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    Remember when the so-called progressive liberals actually did not like when the president told lies?

    They might not remember but me and pepperidge farm sure does!
     
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    Perhaps the Hillary campaign should not have started that?

    How does someone get to be even considered for the nomination much less to be the president before that is totally cleared up?

    People have to prove their identity to buy age restricted products.
     

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