Whites Turned Away From Training Session For FDNY Entrance Exam...

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  1. phil white

    phil white Member Past Donor

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    "Diversity" is code for less whites.
    "Anti-racist" is code for anti-white
     
  2. DonGlock26

    DonGlock26 New Member Past Donor

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    The article is the evidence.

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  3. DonGlock26

    DonGlock26 New Member Past Donor

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    And, we all know that appear means absolute certainty. LOL!!!!

    The website on the other hand is certain.


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    DonGlock26 New Member Past Donor

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    Who was ruining anything?

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    homerjay_s New Member

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    The article doesn't provide evidence beyond speculation. Conjecture and hearsay are not valid evidence without anything else to back them up.
     
  6. Gator Monroe

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    Forced Diversity and Social Justice too
     
  7. texmaster

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    Wrong again TFM.

    They are a non profit organization which is subject to racial discrimination to maintain their tax exempt 501c3 status.

    http://non-profit-organizations.findthebest.com/l/204273/Vulcan-Society-N-Y-City-Fire-Dept

    Bob Jones University v. United States

    http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/historics/USSC_CR_0461_0574_ZS.html

    Next time research your topic better before responding.
     
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    DonGlock26 New Member Past Donor

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    Says who? Homerjay of the interwebs? LOL!!!

    You are in no position to gainsay the men discriminated against.

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    LOL...no, and no one has argued anything is a certainty except you, and you're arguing that speculation on the part of a news reporter and those who chose not to be named in their speculation is somehow representative of a basis of fact.

    The article did not state with certainty that the people that weren't allowed into the seminar were discriminated against because they were white. It stated that people that didn't want to be named speculated that was the reason. There is, in fact, no evidence, besides the opinion of unnamed sources, that there was any discrimination at all.

    Again, this thread is apparently about your own apparent prejudice and your apparent need to race bait in order to make yourself feel better about it.
     
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    LOL!! This should be good, unless he's left to go wash his hair or something.

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    I am merely making my opinion known regarding the article you presented. You are the one claiming certainty, without any reason to do so beyond your apparent need to race bait.
     
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    DonGlock26 New Member Past Donor

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    Whites being turned away from a black FF study group is evidence of discrimination. I think you are confusing evidence with proof. Look the terms up.

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    DonGlock26 New Member Past Donor

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    Well, that's worthless because you haven't publicly identified yourself according to your own rules of evidence.


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    No, simply because white people were turned away from a study group does not provide evidence that they were turned away because they were white, any more than it provides evidence that they were turned away because they were gay or because they were men.

    I know you really really want to make this a discrimination against white people thing, but your article doesn't support that beyond speculation by unnamed sources.
     
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    LOL, whatever makes you feel better, Don.
     
  17. texmaster

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    Are you having trouble reading TFM?

    First line:

    Nonprofit Organization Vulcan Society N Y City Fire Dept

    By law non profit organizations cannot racially discriminate.

    Do you not understand they are a non profit organization therefore they cannot racially discriminate? Are you simply incapable of admitting you were wrong?
     
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    This figures. You’re seeing more and more stuff like this in the last few years. I have a feel this was done because minority, in this case blacks, are not getting promoted to higher positions or even passing basic entrance exams over their white counterparts There was that big case before the Supreme Court that Sotomayor ruled on when she as at the appeals division; the New Heavn Firefighters. That was just one case in a long line. A few weeks ago you had something similar in Denver were there were white firefighters who passed their promotion exams but were not promoted and their pay was not changed because for that. They filed a law suit and won.

    Like I said you’re seeing more and more of this because the minorities are passing their tests, and the cities are worried about a lawsuit from the minorities because they don’t’ study and file a lawsuit. So city’s feeling is screw it don’t promote anyone.
     
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    Are you suggesting that the NAACP and the United Negro College Fund cannot legally discriminate based on race?

    That is inaccurate.

    A non-profit organization specifically set up to promote a minority class can legally discriminate against those not from that minority class.
     
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    Yes,it would be beneficial to have you go on record proving that you
    are interested in Truth.That is a first principle.All else pales in
    comparrison.If you have difficulty with the simple test,then
    yer entire life will be one of constant looking backwards and
    second guessing yerself.
    Truth is the Foundation of Man as Rational Animal.
    The animal kingdom doesn't know from Truth.
    Set the example for all the udder Liberals here.
    Free yerself from their Zoo cage.
     
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    I guess you never heard of the KKK or all the white power neo-nazi groups, the all-white private communities, etc.
     
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  23. fiddlerdave

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    You are wrong, and I find it astounding the Right can be so ridiculously, and I believe deliberately, clueless to assert this ridiculous idea that private non-profits "can't discriminate"!

    Your example concerned a "non-profit" school ONLY - a private GROUP is NOT a "non-profit" school, a school almost by definition is a public entity to some extent, and is subject to laws specific to schools in any event.

    A few try to regulate non-profit groups with the precedent, but the truth is there are enormous numbers of private non-profit groups across the country that can and do discriminate against race, creed, religions, etc.

    One glaring example is the Boy Scouts, a national non-profit organization, that prohibits atheists and gays. The Right has spent thousands of man-years on this issue.
     
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    White groups, big and small, specifically exclude minorities every day all across America.

    It is quite legal.
     
  25. texmaster

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    Then quote the law that backs you up Homer. Love to see it since I already provided it.

    And you really need to read more carefully about the organizations you are quoting. For example the UNCF never says they only award to black students.:

    Read their mission statement.

    http://www.uncf.org/sections/WhoWeAre/SS_AboutUs/aboutus.asp

    And neither does the NAACP discriminate on race.

    http://www.aikenstandard.com/story/0106-naacp-meeting

    When Philip Howell was installed as the Aiken Branch NAACP president by his good friend, Nelson Rivers Jr., Tuesday, he downplayed that he is the first white person to head the organization.

    Read more: NAACP chapter installs its first white president | Aiken Standard
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    Better think that through again.
     

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