Why Can't The Pope Be A Woman?

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    And just so this thread knows, women can be Popes, but men tell them they can't.
     
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    OH I am SO NOT SURPRISED THAT YOU HAD TO CHERRY PICK MY POST TO SAVE YOURSELF FROM EMBARRASSMENT BUT HERE IT IS :) :) :

    (SARCASM ALERT FOR THOSE WHO MAY NEED IT POINTED OUT)


    Ya, those pesky people who want equal rights ! When will this stop !!??

    Women got the vote and after that those troublemakers wanted equal pay for equal work, equal job opportunities, equal health care those pesky women, thinking they're actually HUMANS just like men !!

    And those black people, they got freed and then wanted to be treated like other humans ...how dare they expect more than just being freed!!!!

    But they got a foot in the door and expected to eat at any public restaurant, drink out of any public water fountain, sit anywhere on the bus,,demanded equal pay for equal work, equal job opportunities, equal health care !!




    OMGAWD! WHERE WILL IT STOP!!!!! All GIMMICKS! I tell YE! All gimmicks...!!
     
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    Maybe he doesn't but church hierarchy do....they run the show not some "he" floating around …


    "In his image" ???....is "he" both male and female???
    :) :)
    If he doesn't view either sex as better than why is he a "he" …..?????
     
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    It's more complicated than that. Right now there are not really any women candidates qualified to be pope.

    (And pope means father, so we would have to call them "mope")
     
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    Then make it Mope... As long as she gets to lead as much as a Pope. Like King or Queen; Pope or Mope.
    Or cancel it for sexism since there are no Mopes and it's the church's fault no ladies are qualified.
     
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    [​IMG]
    Why can't there be a woman Dalai Lama? lol
     
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    The Dalai Lama would have to reincarnate into a woman.
     
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    I guess.

    I've seen Little Buddha (1993) so, this theory checks out.
     
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    I'm still convinced that the Catholic Church is corrupt beyond redemption until it learns right from wrong and stops condemning people to Hell for love (Same sex marriages should be seen as a step towards not living in sin); and, since Pope Joan was dismissed as legend, there is much to be desired for gender equality, and what is wrong with being Woke if being Woke is used as a stick to beat those into bettering themselves?

    Shirley Phelps-Roper, Bill Donohue, these are not people we should be allowing to preach their message of hate. Free speech and the first amendment might allow them to though.
    I'm all for protecting minorities, except when that minority preaches hate speech and keeps others from positions of power based on gender or race or sexuality.
     
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    Why do I get the feeling that the Left isn't anywhere near as anxious to "cancel" Tibetan Buddhism as they are Catholicism?
     
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    Men and women are created in the image of God. The Bible says so :) That concept goes beyond our sexual organs. It means our emotions, our ability to choose, to love...our ability to build a relationship with God.
    And women are just as valued as men. Which is not a concept shared in some other religions btw....

    As far as those churches that view men should be in leadership positions, the women who decide to be a part of that church family likely have their focus on God, not on pride and ego. However if a woman feels called to be a pastor...there are many church families that welcome that.

    Choice and the freedom to choose is a wonderful thing.
     
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    1 Corinthians 11:3

    New International Version
    But I want you to realize that the head of every man is Christ, and the head of the woman is man, and the head of Christ is God.

    Ephesians 5:23
    22Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord. 23For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.

    The bible places the man at the head of the church. And the husband is the head of the wife.
     
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    Saul/Paul persecuted Christians. He is a wolf in sheep clothing. Works for Satan.
    He can't be trusted.
     
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    I think the 'new era' is good. It cancels bigots.
     
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    Exactly.
    I was LMAO at the ignorance of the statement.

    They are equal, but not the same. Too funny,
     
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    I'm of the state and the church who says...

    God is head of the crown, which is me, but right now, a lady wears the crown, so it's on her head, but it's still below God, and I am the crown/we are the crown; the crown is the British people, it is our 'we the people' and makes the UK like Iran in having unelected religious people of power in our House of Lords in our Houses of Parliament in Westminster.

    But that's what being British and Church of England gets you.

    The Arch Bishop of Canterbury is my Pope appointed by the lady who wears the crown who delegates these things, but the reigning monarch is the head of the church here; for me.

    I believe it's unfair to have a ruling family with privilege.
    But that's another battle for me and my people.

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    Russia did this too, and had their own church, think Greece too.

    I mean, we have Catholics and Catholic Churches and schools here too, but, I'm not one and was born and 'Christened at a Christening' in another domination that's a subset of this called Congregational which is more about hymns than robes.

    I'd have a Catholic wedding if I married one who wanted one, but I'd also have a whatever wedding for that reason too.
     
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    The Queen and group don't follow the bible for their rules.
    The RCC does.
     
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    We Brexit'd in 1533, we Brexit'd again in 2020.

    We're a proud island who don't like being told what to do by foreign powers be they the RCC in the Vatican or the EU in Brussels.

    It is what it is - It's even our national anthem; called God Save The Queen.

     
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    Yes,
    The OP is about RCC however.
     
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    It's about sexism in the RCC; however, Anglican can have women vicars and bishops.

    Who's to say the RCC is right and Anglican is wrong? Certainly not me.

    As I said, God is head of the Crown, which is me and my people, none of this 'man is head of woman' torment.

    God Save The Queen
     
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    RCC takes their orders from the bible.
     
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    Because they wrote it when Rome fell to the Christians and made the first Pope out of the last Roman Emperor who needed to control an empire; not because of anything else but mass control.
    It's all in hierarchy; listen to the head because they are better than you nonsense, imo.

    Remember; the dead cannot rise and virgins cannot have babies.
    This is fact, and this bible is just a tool to control a populous into submission.

    Maybe, we should all be Jewish?
     
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    I didn't say the bible was facts.
    I said the RCC takes its rules from the Bible.

    The bible clearly states the man is the head of the wife. As christ is the head of the church.
    Man is above the woman.
     
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    To serve God and to serve your man or be served if you're a man, but a man cannot serve a woman out of wedlock so therefore she can't be a priest and rise up to Pope, is because she cannot be served?

    Is that it.

    Catholics can't serve women.

    Sounds Sexist to me.
     
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    Is this because of Mary the mother and Mary the 'lady of the night' shall we say, served Jesus and so women must serve men?

    That it?

    Is that why women can't be Popes?
    .. Because they're women?
    And you must listen to the Pope, but you can't listen to a woman?

    If God's the father then anyone ordained as a father is God?
    Is that why Catholics call priests Fathers?
     
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