Why is Trump threatening to shut down our government?

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  1. ButterBalls

    ButterBalls Well-Known Member

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    The Leftist supremacist party is not required to read, they are at birth "Instructed on how to process information", in other words, you're wasting your time :(
     
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    Ah so doing your part to keep americans unemployed. Congratulations.

    Sure I'll address your excuses.

    A remittance tax is an automated process, and any costs would be easily offset by the 14 billion in revenue generated.
     
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    ButterBalls Well-Known Member

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    So you're going to Unionize a "MACHINE", clearly you're way out in front of the field ;)
     
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    Not a very well read one apparently.

    If you understood automation, you would understand that it doesn't replace jobs, it redefines them, and actually is one of the things that can help bring manufacturing jobs back to the US, thanks to our advantages in technology and infrastructure.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/forbes...on-on-the-independent-workforce/#4d4ef6e975c5
     
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    No, I'm going to unionize fellow workers in the SERVICE sector, you know? That place where the vast majority of Americans work?
     
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    Right. Automation doesn't replace workers. Which is why autoplants require exactly as many workers now to produce a car as they did in 1930.

    Did you notice how in that article every field where they say automation "refines" work is in a non-manufacturing field?
     
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    I see you again didn't read the article and try to learn anything.
     
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    ButterBalls Well-Known Member

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    So you're claiming a motel, supplying Butt Wipe doesn't have to pay a Use tax? I'm going to call BULLSHIT here :)
     
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    What do airports kiosks and Amazon warehouses manufacture again?
     
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    LOL for a start I'm British. Who is going to pay for Paypal's extra costs in order to separate my transactions from US citizens transactions?

    Did the software for this automatic process write itself? Who is going to pay for the extra costs to banks and the administration of transactions. Who is going to deal with errors and queries? Who will pay for the extra staff that employers will have to hire to process their tax returns to take account of separating costs associated with external (US) and internal (US) purchases? The costs of your "easily offset" is ever increasing
     
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    Most cars, electronic items and white goods are now fully built by automation
     
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    If only we already had a device that could account for that. Oh yeah, we do.

    Cause we have to completely re-write all our global banking and transaction software to account for country of purchase for taxation.

    You should spend more time thinking before you post about stuff that was solved years ago.
     
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    You missed the original post, which was a comment about laborers sending more and more money home. The blogger suggested that we take 20% of the money before it leaves the country, and then slap some other fee on Mexico.
    As a side note, I believe that we are doing a great job securing our borders without a wall for 35 billion dollars. With drones, more
    border patrol police, technology, we do not need a wall. This is Trump satisfying his ego again. That money can be used for infrastructure, inner cities, and me.
     
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    Well then put in an alarm system and pull your front door off your house and see how that works.

    You could put in some cameras to make sure no one gets in and stuff.
     
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    So why aren't we building them in the US.
     
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    Really, your big economic cure all is raking in union dues from menial burger flippers, waitresses, housekeepers, folks like that? Cool "In essence" suck due's from people barely making minimum wage competing with China and other foreign service sector industries paying their dolts 2 yen a day..
     
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    So people are going to fly to China to get their food or watch movies or get their taxes done or have their car fixed?
     
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    Well at least you were honest about the TYPE of worker you were going to unionize :) So your big plan is still Waiter/Waitress with the addition of organizing Turbo Tax and the Privately run Mechanic shop or the local Ford dealer mechanics...

    Stop bro, you're exposed!
     
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    Why should they not be part of a Union? Is their labor so worthless to themselves that they don't believe they should be compensated for it?
     
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    Because practically everything used to make the car, electronic equipment and white goods is also made in China and to further add to the answer, you do build some of these products using automation resulting in less jobs
     
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    Why? Because after dues to you they will make less money ;) If they even have a job after dealing with your union drive. The big picture here is you're literally a century late and at least $40 short! Big ticket workers are unionized, Auto, Major Supermarkets, Hospitals, Miners, all pretty much are rooted one way or the other and barely keeping their heads above water...

    Do the world a real favor and work toward bringing Manufacturing and Industry back and then work to organize people actually making a living wage ;)
     
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    Well at least with this plan, there is no expectation on the burglar to pay for the alarm system and cameras
     
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    Manufacturing won't be coming back.
     
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    Agreed, thanks for making my point!
     
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    So everyone who works in the Service sector should just give in on getting paid what their labor is worth?
     

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