Why Japan has practically no gun violence

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This is not the topic of the thread. You are trying to divert the conversation.

We are 1000x worse off than Japan, but not because of guns alone, but rather the type of firearms and the uniquely American mentality we have about guns. In many parts of the country, guns are like a religion, and some folks are so convinced about the mythos of gun ownership that they are the main reason why nothing is done to curb the violence. They are just pawns of the NRA propaganda machine.

The Japanese had to endure the atrocities of their past and two atomic bombs. They certainly have learned a valuable lesson for themselves. Do we need to do the same to achieve that clearer understanding of how to curb gun violence?

 

Ever heard of the 'rhetorical' use of terms?

 

Hell, all Japan has going for it are those Godzirra movies and those liltle girl emojies.

 

You are going to do no notice searches of a 150 million homes?

Again. What script?

 

Then you admit that the US is not a war zone?

 

it might take decades, but we could point ourselves in that direction, noting that decades is a lot sooner than never.

 

You are going to do no notice searches of a 150 million homes?

Again. What script?

1000X worse of than Japan. Wow. It must have changed a lot since I lived there. Just driving over there was enough to scare you to death. They don't call them Kamikaze taxis for nothing.

 

Precisely how do we "point ourselves in that direction"?

 

Japan allows shotguns and air rifles at the home for self defense, and that is how you defend yourself.

As for handguns, do you really need one? I'm 69 and have never owned a hand gun in my life. And, the one time I was robbed at gunpoint, had I a gun on my person and reached for it, I would not be sitting here today. If you are a armed security guard in a bank, you will be the first one who will be targeted in a robbery.

 

I'll let the legislators work it out. Anything is possible, with determination. Remember what Australia did, with their buy backs?

 

Then you should really try one. They are much more practical for defense in the tight confines of a house. As far as being robbed at gunpoint, most people are smart enough not to try to pull a gun on someone holding you at gunpoint.

 

Australia did not have six hundred million guns.

 

So? They don't have as much money as we do, either.

 

Wow, not even close to realistic, in fact, sounds down right Chinese or even more like National Socialists rule

 

Most people. If 1% didn't, that's a lot of dead people.

 

At times in some areas, perhaps, temporarily, but not like Afghanistan, Syria, or anything like that.

 

The video dances around the real issue. In a word, it’s conformity. Japanese culture is based on conformity. If society is told firearms are taboo, then firearms are taboo. Historically, when firearms were a means to authority’s ends, Japanese society complied and fought to the death with firearms. Or committed atrocities like the Nanjing Massacre. The lack of firearm violence in Japan today has one foundation. Conformity to societal norms dictated by authority.

In a country that just last year stopped forcing high schoolers to dye their hair black, a practice that was accepted by society till recently, why would you not expect conformity on this issue? Fun fact: the biggest motivator for mask usage in Japan during the Covid pandemic is conformity (to fit in with societal norms). Not concern for others. Not to protect oneself. Just to fit in.

 

And it's weird that Australian Police carry a firearm

Do Australian police officers carry guns?

Strange they would, with everyone not having a gun

This what happens when you give up your guns

 

How do you physically take six hundred million guns? House by house? In about a month, the courts would be overwhelmed.

 

If you watched the video, it said 'although there are cultural differences, there is a lot US can learn from Japan", and explains what they are.

 

Yes I watched the video. That’s why I said it danced around the real issue. How would I know that if I didn’t watch it?

Is your point Americans should become conformists like the Japanese?

 

I think the buy back method is best. It would take decades, but the gov should promote, via school videos, lectures, entertainment policies more martial arts than guns used in motion pictures, as the new replace the old, a new mindset, gradually pulling the culture away from guns, like they did in japan.

like I said, it would be a slow process, but decades is a lot sooner than never.

 

That still doesn't address the biggest problem. Only the law abiding citizens will comply. Those that are doing a major part of the killing in "your war zone" won't.

 

Japan only had a “gun culture in the mid 1500’s. After feudalism gave way to central control in 1588, the citizenry was systematically disarmed (firearms and blades). Execution of violators ensued. Peasants were not allowed to travel without permission, marriages were arranged, and religious tradition was enforced by the Samurai class, the only armed class.

Gunsmiths who had done good business during feudal wars were paid by the government to not produce.

Japan remained isolationist (and unarmed) until the late 1800’s when restrictions on firearm manufacture were loosened to deal with growing threat from Europeans. Firearm sales (mostly revolvers) were even allowed to citizens with registration and police permit, but few were purchased.

Moving into the 1900’s, firearm manufacturing ramped up, but only to supply militarization of the government who still maintained a monopoly on ownership of weaponry. As I’ve already pointed out, the consequences of that were quite negative. Yet, even after committing atrocities during WW2 at the behest of the authority citizenry had come to follow unquestioningly, and subsequent subjection to nuclear weapons, citizens still wish to conform to government they trust implicitly.

So in short, Japan has spent centuries (not decades) coming to this point. With almost constant suppression of lower classes and violation of human rights by armed upper classes. Meh, I’ll pass on taking the approach of Japan and I’ll pass on the resultant lack of individual thought and expression seen today that allows what you see as success.