Why "women's rights" instead of "gender rights"

Discussion in 'Women's Rights' started by SpaceCricket79, Mar 16, 2014.

  1. ryobi

    ryobi Well-Known Member

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    OK then....

    As a man, and therefore a member of the patriarchy i'm ordering you to stop posting on this site.

    Thank You

    The Patriarchy

    member of the patriarchy since February, 8th 1975
     
  2. ryobi

    ryobi Well-Known Member

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    The Scientists who are the authors of the peer reviewed scientific studies I quote get it right :wink:
     
  3. ryobi

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    OK FoxHastings, why isn't the women's rights section on this site called gender rights????
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    women's rights are a part of gender equality

    it's like black rights during slavery was about human rights, blacks were being denied these rights
     
  5. Tram Law

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    How come it's called rights and not lefts?

    How come it's called the Blues and not the greens or the yellows?

    How come they never sell their yard at a yard sale?

    And how come they never let you take a seat home when they say have a seat?
     
  6. ryobi

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    Ok...my second directive as a man and therefore a member of the patriarchy is all the female feminists on this site must empty their bank accounts into my paypal account by 12:00 pm pacific time 08/12/2014

    and as a man who is a member of the patriarchy, I know I don't have to than you,but I will out of the generousity of my heart. So,

    Thank You
     
  7. ryobi

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    I just got back from my patriarchy meeting.

    It was great!!!

    Woops! I wasn't supposed to tell you about the patriarch meetings. They're secret shshshsh.....

    Too Late!!!!

    HeHeHe.....
     
  8. ryobi

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    So are you saying Skinny is a member of the patriarchy just like me???

    Wait...don't answer as a man and therefore a member of the patriarchy I forbid you from answering

    hehehehe........
     
  9. Tram Law

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    Women must never be allowed to wear clothes and they must be forced to excercise one hour a day so they can be thin and trim and slim. They must be attractive so they can have that dream husband they so fervently want.

    So THIS I DECREE!
     
  10. ryobi

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    Well 12:00 pm pacific time 08/12/2014 has come and gone and there has been no activity on my paypal account.

    Some patriarchy, jeesh :roll:
     
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    Patriarchy exists on a scale. On one end you've got women as property, then you've got countries like Japan, Korea and Southern Europe, then you've got the English speaking world that affords men privileged at the expense of women, but doesn't necessarily give individual men power over individual women. It's much more nuanced than that. You disagree with the idea of patriarchy but don't seem to know the first thing about gender politics.
     
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    Funny I'm a guy and I don't feel priveledged and powerful.

    Must be for being Cherokee and not being white.

    White people only value good looking, youthful, eloquent people and anybody else can just burn.
     
  13. ryobi

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    I guess you should be able to elaborate exactly on what those priviledges are??? Is affirmative action one???
     
  14. ryobi

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    Looking for a meme I've posted before about all the great priviledges men enjoy as a result of being men, such as getting 63% harsher sentences than women when they are convicted of the same crimes, but I'm having trouble finding it. However, I found this list created by a woman of all the priviledges she enjoys as a reslt of being a woman:

    As a woman, it is good to be aware of your privileges. So I thought about them a while back and made a pretty good list.

    1. I am less likely to become homeless.
    2. I am less likely to die in the workplace, men generally work physically harder jobs. But heaven for bid they made a few cents on average more than women, because you know, men are building skyscrapers more often than women, while women sell make up more often than men.
    3. If I commit a crime, chances are statistically that my time in prison would be less just for being a woman, even if the same crime is committed.
    4. I can venture out with my sexuality if I wanted to and none of my buddies are going to call me a (*)(*)(*) for making out with other women.
    5. I am more likely to marry up than a man is. I did actually, my husband has always made more than me. You have to appreciate that. He is more hard working than I am and I will admit it. I am not good at doing extreme physical work like he is. His work is about 95% men, and they hire women because they legally have to, even if they are not as good at the job as the men are.
    6. If I wanted to, I could legally abort a baby without my husband even knowing it. Any woman can without the knowledge of any boyfriend or husband she has. At basically anytime during pregnancy. Just thinking of that makes my stomach turn.
    7. I get free drinks, still. Before someone knows that I am married, they could spot me and find me attractive and buy me a drink to strike up conversation. I have never bought a man that is a stranger a drink, nor have any of my female friends, but they have all gotten them.
    8. If I was single, I probably wouldn't pick up the tab on a date. Although I would probably try to, it is nice that men pick up the check. But some women have a legitimate problem when men don't pay. Is there a problem in being expected to maybe pay for your meal?
    9. About 5 times more likely to have custody of my children if we got a divorce. Of course I would never opt for anything but shared custody. I wish every parent, mother or father, felt that way.
    10. Women's studies is in basically every college, but men's studies is not.
    11. When I go to a store, there is usually a bigger selection of clothes and shoes for me than there is for my husband.
    12. I can say I was raped and would be automatically believed it is true and that my rapist is horrible. If a man were to do that, it is far less likely people will believe it. What man would get raped? Men love sex.
    13. If my husband cheated on me and I beat him up with a golf club if I caught him in the act, people would understand me, and the media would mention how he was sleeping with another woman. If I cheated on my husband and he beat me with his fists, people would be less likely to support him. And the media would probably fail to mention I was sleeping with another man.
    14. I don't have to register to sign my life away when I register to vote.
    15. I didn't have part of my genitals taken off when I was born because of almost entirely cosmetic reasons.
    16. I am more likely to get money after a divorce than a man is.
    17. I am more likely to get money after having a child than a man is. Child support is supposed to be for the child, but it is not tracked. So I am going to be calling it getting money for myself sense there is hardly ever proof it is going to just the children.
    18. I can call getting hit on and approached as being disrespected.
    19. I would be more likely to get on a lifeboat when a ship is sinking.
    20. I can name off all of these things and still log into facebook and see a daily post from either a close friend or family member about how women are still oppressed. I can still call myself oppressed and men privileged, but that in itself is a privilege too, that most men do not get.
     
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    Another female priviledge she didn't mention and no one thinks of is men are expected to do all of the heavy lifting when it comes to initiating a relationship. I went to a notorious feminist university and I still had to do all the approaching, all the asking for a number, all the asking out. In other words, as a man I still faced all the possibilities of rejection.

    If feminist women don't want, "creepy," men asking them out, then maybe they should do some of the, "heavy lifting," at the beginning of relationships and face the possibility of rejection that men have always faced.

    I mean, if feminist women truly want equality shouldn't they take on some of the burdens of what it means to be a man???
     
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    They don't want equality, they want control, and will use any dirty rotten tactic they can think of to get it.
     
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    Yeah, big burden, asking a woman out. Poor thing. Trivial thing.

    Try pushing a baby out. Non-trivial big thing.
     
  18. ryobi

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    Most men are biologically incapable of, "pushing out a baby," and there are many forms of birth control available to women that make, "pushing out a baby," a minute possibility.

    Are you saying as a feminist that women deserve special priviledges because of biology???
     
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    You are equating social historical values to an inequality for men . .simply not the case. It takes a long time to change social and cultural attitudes - things have have been ingrained (rightly or wrongly) over many years and generations do not suddenly disappear over night, and contrary to what you have experienced I have known a number of women who had no problem with asking a guy out, even been asked out a few times by girls myself .. perhaps the problem was that none of the girls actually wanted to ask you out, did you consider that I wonder?

    It was seen as scandalous for a woman to assert herself to the extent of asking a male out and that cultural misconception persists even today.
     
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    Absolute rubbish .. how anyone could equate not being asked out by a woman as "control" is bottom feeding on the crap floating down.

    Have you ever considered the idea that women may not want to ask you out?
     
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    Fugazi, I have you on ignore.

    But i'm going to assume you don't agree with me.

    You really need to educate yourself before you get yourself castrated by these awful, manipulative, bossy, women.
     
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    You were whining about the 'heavy lifting' men do and suggesting women share mens heavy lifting. But the moment I point out the 'heavy lifting' women have of their own, you disingenuously twist it into claiming I want special privileges for it. I was pointing out a HEAVY-LIFTING FACT FOR WOMEN in the face of your whining and crying and constant LAMENT about how BAD men have it. Seriously, open your eyes, dude. You're so off the mark in your responses, it becomes pointless engaging you.
     
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    Well why else does a man become a white knight???
     
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    Exactly, they didn't want to ask me out but the fact that they went out with me when I asked them out and had sex with me is a pretty good indication they wanted to be asked out by me...

    ...and I don't ask girls out. I ask women out, but hey there are all kinds of sickos in the world it seems, especially on the internet
     
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    Yes as an egalitarean who believes inequalities are wrong when those inequalities are a result of discrimination regardless of ones race and gender I can see how a member of a supremacist hate movement would think my beliefs are, "off the mark"
     

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