Why "You Didn't Build That" Resonates

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  1. theunbubba

    theunbubba Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yours is a bogus argument. Every person has the same roads and schools. You have even more resources than any of the people like Henry Ford had. But because you prefer to whine about your lot instead of doing something about it, you will remain poor.

    Henry Ford sold Millions of cars before paved roads, or even gas stations, existed in most of the world by the way. How'd that happen?
     
  2. coolguybrad

    coolguybrad New Member

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    True, some companies don't care. I refuse to patronize or work for those businesses. But all? No.
     
  3. Nonconformist

    Nonconformist New Member

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    LOL. I always know a liberal has lost the argument when they start talking about the "right wing propaganda machine" or "right wing talk radio" etc. The reverse is true also, of course.
     
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    /sarc

    Because businesses need roads!
     
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    Before the car or truck came along businesses were getting by moving stuff on railroads.
     
  6. Agrona

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    I see you watched Fox and Friends that day too. Wonders never cease.
     
  7. Iriemon

    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I wonder where she got the water to make the lemonade?
     
  8. Zosiasmom

    Zosiasmom New Member Past Donor

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    But not every person has access to billions in government bailouts, do they?

    Who received billions in tax dollars to rebuild their businesses? Me? You? The guy down the block?

    Here is a link to a list of all the firms that "didn't build it themselves":

    http://money.cnn.com/news/specials/storysupplement/bankbailout/

    You'll note how few have paid us back.
     
  9. Anikdote

    Anikdote Well-Known Member

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    Me: Yes, I'm looking for a post that makes a lot of unfounded assumptions and says very little.
    Forum: Oh, lucky you, I have just the thing for you:

    And we all benefit from those things somewhat equally. So what, the fact that some value is derived from them is the only point I was making. Something I see you carefully avoided responding to, opting for partisan talking points.

    There was no whine, and it's quite dishonest of you to claim otherwise. That you fail to appreciate the value of public goods is just a remind of what I said is true:

     
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    I agree, I never intended to imply I was talking about all companies, there are many fortune 500 companies that proactively put employee safety first.
     
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    BestViewedWithCable Well-Known Member

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    webrockk Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I get my water from a well I contracted a private company to drill...the electricity that runs the pump is provided by a privately owned utility company.
     
  13. Glock

    Glock Well-Known Member

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    I know that, you know that, however, there are a select few here who argue just to hear themselves talk. If this was an Obama ad, they would be tearing this guy apart for accepting a .gov loan, and b******* and complaining about using tax payers money for his business....go figure....
     
  14. Zosiasmom

    Zosiasmom New Member Past Donor

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    There are a lot of small to mid-sized businesses that have certainly done it themselves and over 145 multi-national corporations who would not be in existence today if we, the tax payers, hadn't loaned them billions.

    But...please, feel free to ignore that.
     
  15. theunbubba

    theunbubba Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I think he's doing the "Jitterbug" from the WWII era.
     
  16. coolguybrad

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    However, your cookie cutter regulations do nothing but squander the small business, regardless of the intentions of the businessman.
     
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    Glock Well-Known Member

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    and yet, if it wasn't "cookie cutter" style, people would scream that it was unfair that some businesses follow a different set of rules....
     
  18. Zosiasmom

    Zosiasmom New Member Past Donor

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    Now that I come to think of it, not just did I fund Bank of America, Wells Fargo, Goldman Sachs so they "didn't have to build it", but my money through them went to fund many, many other businesses who "didn't build that".

    Who were the guys who ok'd those bailouts again? I sure hope none of those same people are sitting in our Congress right now.
     
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    Zosiasmom New Member Past Donor

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    Those regulations in many cases that hurt or harm small businesses were lobbied for by larger companies. Take a gander at all of the regulations that Monsanto had a hand in.

    http://www.foodsafetynews.com/2012/03/monsanto-is-a-lobbying-powerhouse/

    Not to let Democrats off the hook, but these regulations didn't fly out of their pants. They came from somewhere and that is other businesses.
     
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    You mean like whats happening now? LOL. Either way, the money controls the rules and right now its: Big business vs small business.

    Loosen up the regulations across the board....

    Like the above post...
     
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    He would have a hard time fighting his way through the base of the democrat party, the 50% of the nation with their sticky fingers out for goodies
     
  22. Leatherface

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    Richard Nixon did nearly as much to destroy this Republic as did LBJ. Party is not the problem, government intrusion is and it comes from progressive thought across the political spectrum.
     
  23. Zosiasmom

    Zosiasmom New Member Past Donor

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    Progressive thought is not confined to one party. This is lost on some people.
     
  24. Leatherface

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    Ya, I just said that.
     
  25. Serfin' USA

    Serfin' USA Well-Known Member

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    Maybe it's fatalistic, but it's been shown time and time again by history.

    There are success stories out there, but the reason we pay attention to them is because they are quite different from the norm. And success past a certain point is beyond your personal control.

    Making it from lower class to the middle class happens a fair amount. Making it from middle class to upper class does as well, but actual cases of poverty to riches are statistically very rare.

    Bill Gates, for example, didn't exactly come from a poor family. Neither did Steve Jobs.

    A large portion of what determines success at the "top 1%" level is connections. If you come from a fairly well off family, getting there is much easier, because you're more likely to make friends with the right people.

    There is still a glass ceiling for most people when it comes to success, and it's not based on race, gender, religion, etc. It's based on class.

    That being said, you can still reach a comfortable standard of living through hard work in most cases.
     

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