Why "You Didn't Build That" Resonates

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  1. Junkieturtle

    Junkieturtle Well-Known Member Donor

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    The funny thing about all the internet pictures is that it only contains a snippet of what he actually said, the part that is easily and most often taken completely out of context.

    Nothing like a little deceit so you can criticize the guy you don't like. Really goes to show the level of desperation people will have. If you can't oppose Obama without being dishonest, what does that say about you?
     
  2. Jebediah

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    He pays more in taxes than you ever will and he advocates changing the law to mandate HE pays more so if he is a "POS" I guess we all know what that makes you.
     
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    I have posted his entire quote multiple times here.... and it is still hugely (*)(*)(*)(*)ing. What is sad is that you, other liberals, and Barack Obama still don't know that.

    Where do you think the money came from to build the roads and pay for the teachers?

    Ignorance is bliss.
     
  4. coolguybrad

    coolguybrad New Member

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    You just don't get it. People don't care if its in context or not. They don't like the implications of the speech at ANY level, regardless of its practicality.
     
  5. webrockk

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    So now it's the QUANTITY you pay, and not the RATE? You leftists really need to get your stories straight.
     
  6. sec

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    we allowed the machine to brush aside "spread it around" because we tore apart Joe the Plumber vs focusing on what Obama said

    We brushed under the rug his comment about raising energy prices

    Now we have this comment as well

    It's called a pattern and Americans have awoken, are going back over all of the comments and realizing what is in the WH.
     
  7. exotix

    exotix New Member Past Donor

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    Just answer the question ... why is Willard using govt. teat suckers in beitfart-edit *You Didn't Build That* ads ?
     
  8. BleedingHeadKen

    BleedingHeadKen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You also take Obama's comments out of context. Your claim is that he is talking just about society, but he is really talking about government, or perhaps government and society as one and the same. He also speaks as if these things were "given" out of altruism, rather than out of the self-interest of the parties who provided the backbone necessary for modern day wealth creation from new innovation, industriousness, etc. Without those who are entrepreneurial, industrious and willing to take risks, we would not even have the things that Obama claims are necessary for others to create wealth today.

    I will agree that "both sides" have cheerleaders for protectionism, wealth redistribution, etc. One side, however, is far more susceptible to conflating government with society and embracing the all-encompassing progressive state. One can give conservatives credit for recognizing that wealth creation comes generally from those who produce, rather than from government which can only steal.





    It doesn't bother me at all. I'm just pointing out the obvious and posting some context that might spawn genuine discussion, instead of ideological rants and idiotic accusations of "marxism" or "socialism". Maybe I'm hoping for too much.[/QUOTE]
     
  9. Glock

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    I have yet to see anyone answer your question....it's almost as if they have no answer to give you, or maybe they don't want to admit that getting .gov grants to start a business is what Obama was talking about also in his speech....

    It would be interesting to see how many here have a business, and how many started that business without a loan or grant from the .gov, or from family money....
     
  10. Leatherface

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    Nobody is stopping the POS from paying more than 5% to charity, or donating half his salary to pay off the national debt. Last I heard that was not illegal.

    You are a sucker and a chump if you buy what you are selling.
     
  11. flounder

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    If a person is smart enough to develop a product that not only reaps him a financial reward, but also helps society, then I would imagine he is smart enough to build his own frigin roads..., AND MAKE ANOTHER PROFIT!

    Point being, the Government builds them so Obama people have a Job! We are the ones that should be THANKED!
     
  12. Talon

    Talon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Now, we're supposed to believe that family money and taxpayer money are the same? :roll:

    I'm not even going to get started...
     
  13. sec

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    you cannot put family loan and government grant in the same pool. Also, govt grants are not as easy as you think

    sec waves his hand about a business without the help of Obama. In fact, it is sec who went almost 6 months with no pay after Dodd Frank made banks close out LOC's which are vital to small business. It is sec who also finds it easier to conduct international business than here in the USA. It is too expensive and all growth is now seen internationally, not here.
     
  14. Talon

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    There was a time when people did just that. The government didn't build all our roads, river crossings, etc....
     
  15. sec

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    what question? I see some names in your post and have no clue who they are.

    I also do not understand what your gibberish has to do with how Obama's latest revelation is resounding among good Americans

    If you can craft a clear and concise sentence or 2 I'd be happy to reply
     
  16. Anikdote

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    No, my claim is he was talking about some of the public goods provided by government that have helped the private sector be as profitable as it has. As I said earlier, no one gets rich in a vacuum. He's got a clear bias towards how helpful that is, but that it does exist to some extent isn't really arguable.

    Agreed, and where democrats are a greater risk to economic liberty, conservatives are the greater threat to personal liberty.
     
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    I started my own,,no Government and parents were broke. Most save and start very small.
     
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    Zosiasmom New Member Past Donor

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    My tax dollars go to pay for roads, schools, military equipment, political (*)(*)(*)(*)face salaries, EBT cards, housing, and a plethora of laws and agencies that I entirely disapprove of with my entire being.

    Myself and probably 99% of the people on this board are the ones paying the bulk of taxes in the US and are not receiving either free food or the type of incentives, credits, deductions, etc that other people get.

    For my consistent payment of taxes I saw banks get bailed out, saving the jobs and pensions of the CEO and their staff, thus enabling them to lay off thousands of workers, tighten the noose on lending, instigate foreclosures, etc. and strangling our consumer-driven economy.

    Did those banks, those mortgage lenders, those car companies...did they now technically "build it"?

    Or did I rebuild it when my paycheck was jacked its usual 38%?
     
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    Nothing really brings the stakes of the election into focus like that statement.

    Which will predominate: the private economy or the government economy?

    The Tea Party favors the former.
     
  20. Talon

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    Before ObamaCare got passed I would have agreed with that. Not anymore...
     
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    Bull(*)(*)(*)(*) aside, NO ONE is prohibited from applying for an SBA loan...they are available to EVERYONE who does the leg work, presents a viable business model, and hasn't completely effed up their credit....and even then, the proper amount of private "backing" can still qualify one for a loan.

    That some people are somehow "unfairly" advantaged...or more "fortunate and lucky"... is what that POS is selling. Period. and no amount of lies and spin is ever going to make it go away.

    choke on it.
     
  22. Day of the Candor

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    Got a link? I'd like to see some govt. teat suckers, especially if theyre sucking on some big ones. So what's Obama got to say about people who suck teats? "You didn't grow that." Maybe the lesson here is that if you don't own the teats, you don't get to say who sucks on them. Wow, I'm getting excited.
     
  23. sec

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    many developments build the roads and then offer the roads back to the town/city. The thought process is the increased property tax more than covers the maintenance and also bonds tend to be posted. In the end, it's the homeowners themselves who foot the bill be it in sale price/payment to the township or CDD fees. It is a way to improve a community without any burden placed upon the town but the improvements are heaped upon homeowners in a specific community. For example, a nice road built which allows access to the new subdivision but also allows connection to other county/city/town roads. Everyone benefits however the residents of the subdivision pay for that road, maintenance, lighting etc yet the entire area benefits.
     
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    Oh, it's right here ~ http://www.politicalforum.com/curre...u-didnt-build-resonates-4.html#post1061527462

    I myself in *troofersim* can't get my mind wrapped-around it ... other than the norm of the entire Romney campaign in fake & phony & wierd-non-sensical-gaffes ... getting a lie or distortion out there first and foremost where the strategy would be that it would be a truth in Americans minds ... that is, it would be believable if Romney says so ... that is, why would Willard lie & distort ...

    ... because Americans are stupid ?


    Star of Romney Campaign Ad Received Millions in Government Loans and Contracts

    http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/heather/star-romney-campaign-ad-received-millions
     
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    Just like Mikey Moore. There are plenty of the hipocrites around. Why is this a surprise?
     

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