Will the Left ever acknowledge the difference between immigrants and illegal aliens?

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  1. Kode

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    Ok, good. Thanks. Now add all those people together and what is the total? You cannot assume that those holding protest signs are speaking for "most liberals". Most of those people are Hispanic with a dog in the fight, so what can we expect. But add up all those politicians and journalists and protesters. What's your estimate? 500? 200?

    "Few".
     
  2. Kode

    Kode Well-Known Member

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    Ok, so how many should go? Eleven million?

    How do we get them to go? Deport them?

    What do you think it will cost to round them up and deport them all? $100 billion? $5000/person?
     
  3. Bow To The Robots

    Bow To The Robots Banned at Members Request

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    These are my empirical observations. From newspaper headlines to political speechmaking, the word illegal is almost never used or is at best replaced with the word undocumented.
     
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    DOconTEX Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There are more like 30 million. First, stop the invaders from coming in and adding to the infestation we already have. The wall and strict border enforcement which is already underway. DHS is authorizing the hiring of 10,000 more enforcement agents and the policy will not be catch and release like under Obama, it will be catch and deport.

    Continue to round up and deport criminals asap and punish sanctuary cities.

    Next, e-verify and strict enforcement. against employers will dry up the job market and they will have to go home.

    Next, we need to get into the 21st century like other developed nations and enforce and amplify the existing "secure ID" act with biometric tamper proof IDs for citizens and legal immigrants. Make it nearly impossible for the invaders to continue to live here.

    A strict visa tracking system needs to be established so those who come in on visas to go to school or do a temporary job will have the visa terminate on the day the job or school year terminates unless additional permission is granted. I would like RFID chips installed in each one of them so we know where they are and if they haven't made arrangements to stay, we know where they are and can pick them up and expel them.

    Estimated cost of having illegal aliens in the country is $113 billion per year. I don't care what it costs to throw them out. Our status as a sovereign nation is at stake.

    And I don't want to hear a damn word about the US "breaking up families". The illegal aliens made the choice to break our laws, invade our country, and steal our sovereignty. They cheated us, they cheated legal immigrants. Whatever consequences they suffer redounds only to them and is not the fault of the sovereign nation of the United States of America.

    It is a privilege for foreign nationals to be allowed into the US, not a right for any ne-er do well illiterate jihadi from anywhere in the world to come to the US and be supported by American Taxpayers.
     
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    OP...nope, it would blow their long term goal.

    You have to understand the fascist dems must stand for everything polar opposite of the reps. According to the fascist dems...

    An illegal alien = a legal immigrant

    A mentally ill man with a penis in a dress = a woman.

    Two hairy homosexual men = husband and wife.

    Healthy behavior = legalizing dope so you can be drugged out of you mind 24/7.

    Killing babies is not bad. Killing babies = good.
     
  6. Bow To The Robots

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    Off topic, but what has Trump done to suppress free speech?
     
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    To conflate illegal aliens with immigrants is an insult to immigrants.
     
  8. DOconTEX

    DOconTEX Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Don't forget the (*)(*)(*)(*)(*) hats. The left will march in (*)(*)(*)(*)(*) hats to defeat the evil Martians Trump looses on an innocent public.
     
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    Don't forget that one is as good as a future Democrat voter as the other.
     
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    dadoalex Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No, Jan, they don't. You just believe they doo because that's what you've been told to believe.
     
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    Wrong again. Someone outside the country cannot be an illegal immigrant.

    Your challenge? Go to your local Wal Mart and ID all of the illegals without violating anyone's civil rights. Miss just one and you lose. Ready? GO!
     
  12. Bow To The Robots

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    Wait a minute, Sha'Quanda: Don't you think my position could be based on my own observations? Why do you assume I have to be "told" what to think when I have stimuli all around on which to observe, analyze, and conclude?
     
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    Nobody can be an illegal immigrant as there is no such thing. One can be an immigrant or an illegal alien.
     
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    What is interesting is that our immigration laws still identify illegals as 'illegal aliens'....The MSM and their support of anything Democrat first dropped the word 'alien' and then progressively dropped 'illegal.' Such fake labels as 'undocumented immigrant' have supplanted the language of our immigration laws.
     
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    Sigh! OK then Jan. PROVE IT.

    Show me the proof that "the left" refuses to use the word illegal in MOST of its communications. Since this is something you "observe, analyze, and conclude" I am absolutely certain you'll have no trouble quantifying the data and presenting it here.

    Geez, Jan.
     
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    https://www.uscis.gov/ilink/docView/SLB/HTML/SLB/0-0-0-1/0-0-0-29/0-0-0-101.html#0-0-0-164

    Section 101 (15)(A)

    If you insist on getting hung up over definitions.

    Per the section:
    "(15) The term "immigrant" means every alien except an alien who is within one of the following classes of nonimmigrant aliens "

    An "immigrant" means EVERY ALIEN.

    So...well...there you go.
     
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    The key word is "illegal" not whether you want to call them immigrant or alien
     
  18. Bow To The Robots

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    c'mon Lafawndah! You know it's true!
     
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    We are supposed to conclude that its an insurmountable task, and give up.

    Trumps gonna build that wall high.
     
  20. BleedingHeadKen

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    I'm not sure about that. If you return whilst violating a 3 or 10 year bar, I think the result is immediate deportation and a permanent bar. Do you really want to be paying for prison time for immigrants who have simply crossed a line on a map?
     
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    BleedingHeadKen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's hilarious that you complain about the left using language to "confuse Americans", but you don't even understand that structure of the alw and refer to illegal aliens as criminals. It's not criminal law and you won't find any of the immigration laws regarding unlawful status or unlawful presence to contain the word "crime" or "criminal." You are no better than the left that you complain about.
     

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