Will we have to fight fascism again? European elections suggest yes...

Discussion in 'Western Europe' started by snakestretcher, May 26, 2014.

  1. Mayor Snorkum

    Mayor Snorkum Banned

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    Just because you LEFTISTS have proclaimed fascism to be on the right doesn't make it so, just like a Stupid clamiing to be intelligent can't make it true.

    Fascism....believes in controlling businesses for the public good....socialists, believe in stealing businesses for the public good. Both leftist screeds.

    Fascists...believe in central totalitarian authority....socialism always leads to central totalitarian authority....no difference.

    Fascists...believe in murdering people who get in their way...socialism has a history of murdering more then 180,000,000 people in the Twentieth Century alone.

    And there is no god, so stop calling the Mayor "dear".
     
  2. Pronin24

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    You are close to the truth. What would you choose? Khmer Rouge in Camobia was very bad and so is Kim Il Sung in North Korea. So what? Does it mean that Hitler or Mussolini were better? Stay with democracy. How about Norway or Germany today? I think they have more democratic system then we have.
     
  3. Politically Incorrect

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    This.

    When immigration is curtailed, and immigrants learn that they MUST integrate into our society and culture, then, and only then, will this recent far-right movement fade.
     
  4. snakestretcher

    snakestretcher Banned

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    Nonsense. Far-right morons in Britain have attacked 'different' people who have lived in Britain for generations. As long as there are people of colour/race/faith/nationality which don't concur with the 'thought processes' of the knuckle-dragger they will be targeted.
    Sikhs, Poles, Chinese, Muslims, Blacks; you name it and these brain-dead parasites will attack them:
    http://www.irr.org.uk/themes/violence-and-harassment/news/
     
  5. Gilos

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    No point supporting elections if they want to weaken it, if they really wanted to they could have broke Ukraine some weeks ago.

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    And these are the ppl that voted in these elections ? I dont think so, most probebly scared ppl from rekless union immigration laws.
     
  6. rammstein

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    Christianist vacuity has its attraction for some. ...and Europe extends North of the North Sea...
     
  8. rammstein

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    After spending some time with Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn's "200 Years Together", I can better understand why Russia would rebound away from Athiest and Marxist Vacuity and return to a more Christian flavored ideology.

    I highly recommend this book for anyone interested in Russian and European history and politics.

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  9. Politically Incorrect

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    Before mass immigration, the UK was a very homogeneous country. Everybody had either Saxon, Celtic, Viking, Norman or Irish blood. You can't expect the native population to accept the invasion of their country without a violent response.

    Would the Poles accept sudden and mass British immigration to their country? Absolutely not.
    Would Pakistanis accept mass immigration to their country? Absolutely not
    Would the Nigerians, Somali's and other African groups accept mass immigration to their country? Absolutely not.

    I have no problem with limited immigration of highly skilled workers from Commonwealth countries, but I will not accept the disintegration of my nation's culture and identity.

    Also, it isn't just "far right" voters, ask your average working class Labour voter on their opinion of immigration.
     
  10. alexa

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    Please describe your nation's culture and identity.
     
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    Art_Allm Banned at Members Request Past Donor

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    There is no English translation of this book, and the German and French translations were never reprinted.
    An old second hand edition is now sold for more than 100 Euros!

    Guess why?

    The original Russian text of the mentioned book is free and can be downloaded from many Russian servers.

    That is the reason why Russians know more about the history of the 19-20th centuries, than the western consumers, who are not permitted to study the real history
     
  12. Lapista

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    Sir, your opinion destroyes our continent.

    The basic of our continent is a certain agreement. That agreement includes tolerance, freedom and democracy. Do you think that you did chose where you was born? Are you at least a tiny bit aware how others feel who get to your country? Britain to me in according to its tolerance was always a shining star where also we could learn something from. The good example. Immigration did made you strong. You want to get rid of all that positive experience and sit around your what? "Commonwealth"?

    You do sound like a sort of civil "Bomber Harris" who wants to burn down all innocent and positive around you. A spiritual Bomber Harris.

    If you destroy all good about your society, what will be left for you? Why can't you propose positive solutions for problems?

    Education! Those people who do not get any, are without perspective. But they are not automatically like that, you make them that way. Educate them, give them perspective and they will where ever they might come from help your society to develop.

    Some brits like you also want to destroy the EU. All that sounds so narrow minded, so like petty bourgeois...you want to sit on your islands and breath your empire smell. But you lost your empire in the fire of the world wars. No empire left! But you could still keep the finest british qualities who have also been connected with your past:

    As I said...tolerance, democracy, beein decent people, good open minded people...

    If you are the Bomber Harris to such qualities, good night Britain! In autum btw, the scotish will deside to stay in the EU. By that, you also lose parts of your country. Great job, well done...

    NOT!
     
  13. Lapista

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    I do agree on you.

    We must save us from all scum what wants to destroy our central most important values in Europe:

    to be an open minded democratic human society.

    We do have problems, but they shall be solved by constructive positive thinking and not by closing the doors.

    Britain was always the shining star in such open minded spirit. To sit on the old memories of the empire and to close all doors by thinking only white anglo-saxons are british is in fact against your tradition. It is against your tradition what is now part of EU tradition and a base on what modern thinking europeans do relie on.

    I do not want a closed minded Britain with stuburn selfish britons as I do not want such europeans in the EU in general. We do have both.

    I think that will be a chance to repeat the V for victory in the sense to defend our positive european (and also british!) identity.

    No space for rascist ideas. Europe belongs to us!
     
  14. Face. Your

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    Multicultural, pluralistic, and classically liberal, and will remain so despite fascists and their apologists, the same holds true for the U.S., all of the E.U., and the overwhelming majority of European nations and the overwhelming majority of their respective citizenry.
     
  15. Fabien

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    But I am always irritated with what sort of loud squeeking voice anti-europeans try to make the world think that they would be in in majority...they are not.

    Europe is thinking european and not UKIP, AFD, Front National...

    I think it is hight time to make clear who is the boss. The boss is our multicultural, pluralistic, and classically liberal european society.

    Fullstop
     
  16. snakestretcher

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    Every one of those you mention was a foreigner. Even your queen is a German (Saxe-Coburg-Gotha, whose family name was changed to Windsor to calm anti-German sentiments during WW1),) and her old man is a Greek. Immigrants all, and our 'British' culture is an amalgam and distillation of all those immigrants, invaders and settlers. What's so different now? My family were immigrants so perhaps you can tell me how my Polish culture is helping to "disintegrate" whatever it is you perceive as 'British'.
     
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    The time is nearing where we'll put a stop to the anti-white racists that wish for European's homelands to be swamped. Yes European's have many varying cultures and traditions, many of those thrown together in the European melting pots of the US, Canada, Australia, NZ all of which were founded on the 90%+ European often heavily English and German immigration. Of course some countries have native populations and their people and culture is equally as important. But to suggest whites have no right to self determination in Europe, that whoever breeds and invades the fastest can take what our ancestors built is idiotic. The backlash is coming and we'll make it clear who is boss alright.
     
  18. Colonel K

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    Send those Brits back to Britland! Coming over here, stealing our elderly care....

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  19. Fabien

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    What "anti-white rascist" do you talk about? In what way are we swamped? Who does invade us? People like you are frustrated. What makes you so frustrated? Your personal job situation? Are you in a sort of prison in your mindset and unable to leave it?

    I think it is sort of ironic that me, beeing german do remind you, anglo-saxon about something wrong, a wrong direction of the 30ties and 40ties in central Europe.

    And yes, I garantee you: not one inch to an ideology you do support, freedom and tolerance will never surrender! V for victory over intolerance and self invented phatasia "white power" BS.

    For that, I strongly remind all britons that a functionning EU is the best defense against such developpment, what is anti liberal and by that clearly anti british.

    Stay faithful to your finest traditions!

    Be british! God save our (!) gracious queen! Send her victorious happy and glorious!
     
  20. Fabien

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    Nope.I do like our strange brits here in Berlin.

    refused, they should stay. They do like our beer anyway more than yours. Once german beer, always german beer. Brits will stay.

    We also do need someone to have some fun when you play in football against us in Brasil...I liked 2010 ^^ (soccer is to me as a word not acceptable. It is football. The americans should call what they do "american rugby")

    And we also do need some nice english humour and there nice but funny way to pronounce german. Britons are wellcomed here whatever they are / black or white or asian origin...I do not care.
     
  21. Politically Incorrect

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    Those "foreigners", and my ancestors built this country, fought for this country, and died for this country. Your idea that we are all immigrants is patently false, using your logic, should we all go back to Africa? The United Kingdom is my country, and I'm darn well proud to be British.

    You also feel to realize that despite the fact that these "foreigners" belonged to different tribes, they were all ethnically homogeneous and belonged to the R1b haplogroup and where all of Germanic heritage. Every native Briton has similar ethnic make-up, this trait is almost unique among the people's of Europe. This group of people went on to form the greatest Empire this world has ever seen.

    Also, I note how you put "British culture" in quotation marks, but you don't do the same for Polish culture. I mean, what is Polish culture? Getting destroyed by the Germans and Russians for the past hundred years?
     
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    I don't give a toss about "haplogroups", frankly; I leave that stuff to nationalists desperate to prove how 'British' they are. An American is a foreigner in Britain; so are Australians and New Zealanders as well as Germans, French and any other nationality which is not British. By the way, whatever happened to this awesome empire?
    Oh yes, and my father also fought for your country and was wounded twice in the process. What thanks did he receive for his and his fellow soldiers', sailors and airmen's efforts? That's right, they were not allowed to take part in the V.E Day march-past for fear of offending your new best mate, Joe Stalin, to whom you so generously gave half of his country. Britain's longest-standing and most loyal ally, Poland, was quietly dismissed as an irrelevance.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_Armed_Forces_in_the_West#Denouement
    http://www.spk-wb.com/broszury/polands-contribution-to-the-allied-victory-in-the-second-world-war/
     
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    I'll admit my comment about Poland was below the belt, but you can't expect to criticize my culture without some sort of retort.

    I actually have no problem with limited European immigration. Christian, European immigrants from Poland have more in common than with Brits than immigrants from Pakistan.

    Your father was a hero, the sacrifices of the Polish soldiers who fought on the side of the Allies will never be forgotten. Also, let's not forget Polish soldiers who participated in the D-Day landings, their memory will not be forgotten during the commemorations. You can't blame me for British foreign policy that was in place 50 years before I was born, i hate communism and Stalin, the treatment of post-war Poland was appalling.

    Our "awesome Empire" disintegrated partly due to American interference, the rise of nationalism in the Third World, but the most significant factor was the fact that Britain was militarily and economically destroyed after WW2. An entire generation of young men had been wiped out.There was no way the UK could have significantly defended their interests.
     
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    Fascism in America is the real threat, to Americans and to the world. While Fascism does not describe a single form of governance, it has several common elements: Extreme Nationalism, Militarism, Scapegoating of minorities, demagoguery and an oligarchy composed of the wealthy industrialists, the Military and Clerics; a power elite with a capability to manipulate democratic institutions for their own ends.
     
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    Thanks!

    I see there's online English version^~^
     

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