World’s ‘solar and wind capital’ freezing due to snow ‘blanketing millions’ of solar panels

That would work.

 

No new coal plant has been permitted in the United States in the last decade. And none will. The electric power industry does not want the long term debt or the liability. Wall Street won’t buy the bonds for it.

But solar, wind, and batteries have no trouble attracting investors.

And you can build all the coal fired plants you want, and that won’t help Texas’ antique electrical grid, or insure that all. this imaginary power you just invented can get delivered anywhere.

 

Well, that’s the flat earth narrative.

I’m not sure why we should place credence in a twelve year old essay posted in a local blog. You seem to think this is current expertise, as you’re trying to pass it off as an intelligent review of current technology (seen from the vantage point of twelve years on the past).

If this is your idea of “facts” you either shopped for this hoping you could pass it off, or you’re fri

 

oil and coal will be used as long as needed

when oil and coal are not needed then they will stop being used

nobody thinks wind and solar is going to happen overnight

Oil overtook coal for energy purposes

but it took years and coal is still used where it is more economical

there was a time a freight train pulled 2 or 3 cars of coal to power it

when oil became more practical and cheaper they stopped the steam engines

solar and wind are just beginning....

oil did not overtake coal overnight and did not stop al coal

solar and wind is not going to overtake oil overnight and will never stop it completely

go to a barratt-jackson or mecum car auction..

this generation aint letting gasoline powered cars go anywhere

I remember hearing my grandfather talk about a hand start car that had wooden wheels

when my grandson is my age he will remember me talking about a gas powered car

times will change...

 

Well I'm no Trumpster, but I look around this fine morn and all our windmills are running, all our solar farms are still solaring and our NG is sill flowing and all my lights and heater, TV, PC's are still running! And it's a DAMN site colder here then in Texas, so there is that

 

There you go!

Cling to your fossil fuels and pretend to solve the problem by forcing expensive redundancy into the system.

Drive up the cost of operating natural gas fired electrical plants by adding significantly to their construction costs!

Now why didn’t I think of that.

Of course, it would be cheaper and far more useful to build a battery farm on the output side of the plant.

But that’s not part of the flat earth narrative. it’s progress. And that can’t happen in the zero sum gain minds of the reactionary right.

 

Your science comes from AOC and celebrity actors. Everything they have predicted has been wrong.

 

The generation you’re referring to is either retired or about to.

Anybody that pays six figures for a 1960’s factory intermediate muscle car with matching numbers at one of these auctions is almost certainly throwing their money away. Prices of antique cars go flat or fall when the generation that remembers them passes or retires.

As for the gasoline alley mentality of a lot of the more conservative boomers, that will change the very first time they drive an electric car. And especially after they’ve seen all comers waxed by Teslas at the drag strip.

 

You actually think the price for energy will GO DOWN with alternatives? Since when does energy costs go down? Why not say they will be FREE, it's about as accurate

 

Well, not only did you falsely attribute my knowledge to someone I normally don’t pay much attention to, but you added absolutely nothing to the discussion, other than to claim that your ideas (based on outdated notions, as you yourself documented) are the correct ones.

A claim you clearly can’t support with real contemporary evidence.

But you did validate my notation that you don’t know anything about the subject at hand. In fact, you seem to be proud of it.

 

So how do we control the carbon emissions of the following countries? If you can't the world comes to an end. According to the environmental liars.

China
India
Russia
Iran
Saudi
Mexico
Indonesia
Nigeria
Pakistan

You don't care do you? This has nothing to do with climate. It is about socialism and white guilt.

AOC's chief of staff said it. Is he a Trumper?

 

Actually I am a mason....I know how to build fireplaces. In my house I built a "Rumford Fireplace". Look it up. It takes a minimum amount of draft and refracts heat out into the room.....across which is a large stone wall. The wall retains the heat long after the fire is out. I only burn seasoned oak and alligator juniper for maximum BTU's. Glad to inform! Also, I have no AC. There is a large attic fan above my stairway. It draws in the cool night air. See. I was green before AOC!

 

Yes, almost certainly.

Energy will never be free because it needs technology to harvest it and deliver it.

But the up front cost of wind, solar, and battery storage are already lower than for most fossil fuels.

Wind farms tied to battery farms have provided reliable, safe, and cheap peak power for some years now.

The first large scale demonstration plant went online in 2017 and has already paid itself off.

“Since when does energy costs go down?”

In my case, when the state revoked the local monopoly on power generation, and my electric cost went from $0.135/KwH to $0.067.

At those rates, running an electric car only costs half as much per mile as the most efficient hybrid, and a fraction of the cost of putting gas in an F-150.

BTW, Detroit is going electric.

Five years from now electrics will be competing for pubic attention with gas car. Three years later, you won’t be able to give a dirty, expensive (to run, unreliable old gasser away.

None of this has anything to do with the fact that your solution will drive energy prices up, require unnecessary redundancy, and make alternatives all the more competitive!

 

Has the price come down in say Texas or overall since the RISE of alternatives?

 

Being wrong 99% of the time = Science!!!!

https://dailycaller.com/2016/04/22/...rom-earth-day-1970-that-were-just-dead-wrong/

https://www.dailysignal.com/2017/04/26/heres-how-wrong-past-environmental-predictions-have-been/

 

Dude - have you read any of my posts?!?

 

I suppose you don't actually understand the difference between marketing and facts. But there you are.

 

I have no idea. Texas is a deregulated electricity market. But since the Texas grid is not connected to any outside grid, the consumers are forced to choose between the electrical suppliers that control the non profit that runs Texas’ antique grid.

So there is no real effective price competition, since the Texas grid was established to keep other out of the state and to escape Federal regulation.

The state set up a distribution monopoly. And that’s what fell down.

 

Chief democrat scientists. Smarter than you and better than you so shut up! It's about the science!

AOC


Hank Johnson


Diaper Joe Biden

 

So if's competitive, then have they offered energy at a lower cost? That's all I'm asking here..

If you look it up, you'll find consumer cost aren't going down anywhere! Including area's with fairly decent renewable contributions to the grids..

 

correct...the muscle car guys are between 50 and 70...and many have more money than brains

I dont understand why a guy buys a car for a $100K that is pretty but rides like a buckboard and gets 7 miles a gallon

but these guys will be around another 20-30 years..that is about how long it will take electric to takeover

by 2035 most cars being built will be electric...but there will still be gas burners produced and driven

gas powered cars will be around as long as there is gas to put in the tank ...

people still ride horses despite it is only for show and sport...

gas powered cars may only be used for show and sport but they ain't going nowhere

 

One of us is certainly confused. But there you are.

 

Why?

Those coal fired plants failed.

 

I don't think you get it. The only thing keeping people alive there is: Natural Gas, Coal, and Nuclear. The "Green Energy" ALL failed.

 

Apologies for only just finding this but, has anyone mentioned that Texas only gets 13% of its power from Solar and wind?