FBI May "Leak" Clinton Email Probe If DOJ Blocking Continues

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  1. Sundance

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    Reagan was at 30% in April of 1980.

    People said he was going to get "destroyed", too.

    Putting your hopes on online betting, I don't know, dude. :lol:
     
  2. akphidelt2007

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    I'm not putting my hopes on it, it's been reliable indicator for a while though. I'm definitely not putting my hopes on your opinion, lmao!! You don't seem very credible.
     
  3. Andrew Jackson

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    The poor guy is so blinded by Trumpism that he doesn't realize that comparisons between Reagan and Trump are hideously misguided.
     
  4. In The Dark

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    You peddle BS.

    FOIA inquiries are the good People of the USA checking the State. She thwarts them. Others KNEW she was thwarting them but her actions of concealment were obvious and had concrete effects.

    So ... The People were screwed.

    And you freely excuse it and lie about it.

    You are another enemy of the truth.
     
  5. Professor Peabody

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    It clearly states classified is marked or unmarked. If she couldn't tell the difference between classified and unclassified information why was she Secretary of State? Why is she running for President?
     
  6. Bluesguy

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    Try again with the evidence WE ALREADY KNOW, what more would it take, if what I have already listed does not convince you then what will coming out of the FBI investigation.

    So try again

    We know how classifed, SAP, TOP Secret, Signals Intelligence, Satellite photos, her notes for her classified meetings.

    What more would it take to disqualify her to be the next President and to ever again handle highly classified information?

    YES she SHOULD have known, it was HER responsibility and she was trained to know that LOTS of classified information especially top level classified information is BORN classified, before and markings or anything is applied. And we know SHE created emails with that top level classification on her server and then sent them.

    I know enough to know that there are way smarter people that are protecting her server than you or I.
    Who? It was her IT guy who plead the 5th and is now cooperating with the FBI since he got criminal immunity. We know FOR A FACT the first three months she used that server, even while she was high level meetings in foreign countries, without ANY security on it, not even basic encryption, the emails were simple text file you could open with Windows Notepad and read.

    So what more is it going to take for you?
     
  7. Bluesguy

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    No according to ones who have and according to the emails we already know of. Classified at birth, markings or headers are irrelevent/
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    Anyone who has kept up with, are you claiming ignorance?




    Sure it can be reviewed but the crime is at the time and we know of at least 20 emails that contained TOP SECRET at birth information and still do.

    No it, the second part the first part was no mine a forum glitch. Yes she was trained in recognizing classified information and had a duty to safe guard against classified information in which she was dealing be properly protected and secured. And we know SHE created emails containing TOP secret information and send them over her unsecured server which is know as gross negligence, so gross that for the first three months she used it it did not even have basic encryption.

    None of that matters a twit, she was to assume it was classified if there was any question as to it and it should have been on a government secured server in the first place.


    This is a criminal investigation and only a Federal Judge can grant such immunity, what do think this is a friendly inquiry? The FBI doesn't enage at the highest levels in friendly inquiries. Tell me what do you think his immunity if for?
    You're now trying to say a Secretary of State did not know she would be dealing with classified information or something? And let's not forget her first statement that there was NO classified information on her server and she KNOWS what is classified information. And no none of that matters a twit, the crime is complete when she allowed classified information to be transmitted and stored on her private non-secured, non-SCI server.

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    Plead to whom, who has offered her a plea bargain and if she did take one would you still vote for her?
     
  8. Andrew Jackson

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    :roflol:

    Lmao, for the umpteeth time, at this recycled right-wing trollbait.:bored:
     
  9. Professor Peabody

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    Prove my posting wrong....you can can't you?
     
  10. Bluesguy

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    Nope


    Yes we do, go study up.

    How self-serving of her, but does nothing in her defense.


    So she's too incompetent to keep up but let's elect her President. Had she been using a proper email address, with a proper secured SCI server being properly monitored by the cyber-security experts she wouldn't have had to worry. But she refused to do so taking ALL the responsbily upon herself and her IT guy who has now plead the 5th and granted criminal immunity and is now talking to the FBI about what he knows.


    In order to protect themselves from criminal charges it's not about their "security".

    Yes we do know that.

    For 3 months Hillary Clinton’s email access was unencrypted, vulnerable to spies
    On Tuesday, former United States Secretary of State Hillary Clinton made her first extensive comments addressing her use of a personal email address and private email server while in office, saying that she did not use them to communicate anything confidential but that she wishes she had used a government-issued email address instead. She also sought the “convenience” of a single device.

    Venafi, a Salt Lake City computer security firm, has conducted an analysis of clintonemail.com and determined that “for the first three months of Secretary Clinton’s term, access to the server was not encrypted or authenticated with a digital certificate.” In other words: For three months, Clinton’s server lay vulnerable to snooping, hacking, and spoofing.
    http://fortune.com/2015/03/11/hillary-clinton-email-unsecure/

    She didn't have any security on it the first three months before her server was granted it's encryption.
     
  11. Professor Peabody

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    If they were over-classified then why don't they release all the ones said to be over classified?
     
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    It isn't garbage, just because you don't like it. It isn't her personal business when it concerns State business. Why would she go to all of the trouble of setting up her own server, and trying to secure it, for state business? What possible rational explanation do you have?
     
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    Threatening crime? Not at all, a crime involving our national security was committed, there is no question on that, what is in question is how deeply involved was Hillary.
     
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    You thought the SS had the server secure. It doesnt get more ridiculous than that.
     
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    Why the hell is DOJ holding back on this? There's no question that the Clintons and Obamas despise each other. Have promises been made to keep the charges from becoming indictments? Is there something in store for the “Half-Kenyan” if he keeps it covered?

    The Clnton's have so much "dirt" on the Democratic Party that the DNC is scared shi!less thats why.... Promises made to keep the Clnton's together after Bill got caught with his cigar in a honeypot are coming home to roost.
     
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    "Half-Kenyan"?

    Why did you need to mention Obama's ethnicity? I get the feeling you're trying to cast doubt on Obama's citizenship and that he's only protecting Hillary so that she'll protect him (with his alleged citizenship problem) if she's elected.
     
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    Are you? Your response doesn't answer my quote of post 106 "not according to legal scholars and lawyers that have reviewed her case." Once again there has to be definitive truth that she knew which emails were classified. You have yet to provide that and your grand assumptions mean nothing




    So you know that not only can they be reviewed but also refuted. If you couple that with the fact that agencies are in dispute as to what is or is not classified it would be impossible for her to know witch ones are classified. Borne Classified means nothing if there's know way of knowing. Once again the threshold is that she knowingly misused documents.



    Once again who's we. Do you have direct evidence from an official FBI spokesperson confirming that she knowingly created emails with top secret information. I don't give a crap about Faux News or idle speculations from Conservative web sights. Please give me proof in the form of an official FBI spokesperson for what you said she did?

    Lol that could also include a grocery list emailed to her. Apparently there wasn't any question in her mind about the emails she was sent. And I doubt she would shut the State Department down to go over every one of them with a fine tooth comb. Basically you're wrong!!! With the 10s of thousands of emails she contended with you have to prove intent and that she knowingly recognized the emails out of the 50,000 batch that were actually classified. You haven't come close to doing that and neither has anyone else.

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    You're lost . I don't know what kind of investigation this is. All you have are grand assumptions. AT least 6 times I've asked you show me where an official FBI spokesperson has declare this to be criminal. to prove you're assumptions. You come up empty every time.


    Nope never said that. Classification is not a science its an art form. That's why agencies battle each other over what specific criteria makes a document classified. You have yet to respond to this point.

    With the 10s of thousands of emails she contended with you have to prove intent and that she knowingly recognized the emails out of the 50,000 batch that were actually classified.

    You have yet to prove that.

    Everything hinges on what she knew. . Did she knowingly put classified information in jeopardy. That's the threshold. It's impossible to prove.
     
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    Now you're just getting desperate because you know you made a foolish statement. It's embarrassing. But I expect nothing less.
     
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    90% of her work emails were sent/received to/from a .gov address. They were in the government records. She didn't thwart anything. If there was criminal intent you'd have something, but you guys are just desperate as always playing your partisan games. It's absolutely embarrassing. Something children would do.
     
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    We understand that the unmarked emails were looked over and some were deemed classified by the people reviewing them. Only someone who has never actually done anything significant in their lives would make such a ridiculous comment. There are big debates between what is or isn't classified. Happens in a lot of companies and it's a debate within small companies let alone being Secretary of State. It's not black and white. To not understand that, just means you are not serious in this conversation.
     
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    Hillary wants them too. You should be happy! You guys are the people who want the government to be more transparent.
     
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    She says she wanted all emails on one device and not have to carry around two black berry's with two different emails. Probably a bad decision, but it's not that big of a deal. The content is all that matters and so far, there being only 100 "classified" emails out of 50,000... it's safe to say, she wasn't using her email to conduct most of her high level activities. You guys are just desperate. It's embarrassing.
     
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    Would you like to add to the conversation or just type personal attacks. One more and you will be reported.......grow up.
     
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    Sorry you don't understand what I said, but that's not a reason for personal attacks.....STOP!

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    She has copies, why doesn't she release them? You say she wants to.
     
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    You lie for the cause. She thwarted FOIA requests from honest citizens and gave them the finger.

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    Complete BS, as any thinking human could see.
     

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