I like Trump, but I hope he doesn't run again.

Not gonna happen. Too many special interests who buy off politicians.

No matter what you think of politicians it is our society that is producing these people. Until we decide to change as a society we will keep getting the same thing.

Liberalism should be rejected outright and what is called conservatism needs to be overhauled to root out what is detrimental to our society.

 

You get a like because my GF young son says "Whack" constantly, drives me nuts!

 

The man himself has flaws. YOU have flaws too- but I'd bet what you don't have is the capacity to do what Trump can do with his assets.
What kind of fool would elect a president that is ALL flaws? And then pretend they don't exist?

Those are the people telling us how bad Trump is.

 

The voters had their reasons to vote Trump out and they were good ones. One reason I think was that He couldn't make America great again for the people but made America great again only for himself. We don't need Trump as President anymore. Simple as that.

 

Agree to disagree.

Trump once said of the Constitution something to the effect "Do you know how much power this thing gives me??? Nobody knew how much power the Constitution gives a president!"

Now we expect a Donk like Biden and its sidekick the cackling affirmative action hire to be authoritarian statists. Remember Obama: "I've got a phone, and I've got a pen." But there is a philosophy on the other side that suggests the Constitution exists to restrain the power of the state. I did not see Trump exhibiting these characteristics of restraint, rather using the levers of power to advance the agendas of his acolytes. Frankly, the last president to truly embrace this philosophy in any meaningful way was probably Jefferson. And that's not me being cynical, just realistic. We have too often ceded our personal agency to the state for some perceived gain, only later to realize the folly of such acquiescence.

 

So very true, To much money in Washington today and now with the new "ADD A ZERO" digital era raising the ceiling to infinity, everyone is standing in line for theirs. Even the folks down here in the trench's

We're all doomed at some point

 

Well Dick, it really isn't as simple as that. What we need is an overhaul of our society then a downsizing of our bloated government.

 

Lee, your quoting a prime example of the bias news only giving one side of the story and keeping the other side hid. True, Obama's policies created over 11 million jobs. It's also true that Obama had the longest monthly growth in the economy than any President in history. He also had big numbers drop in people signing up for work. When you look at it from the numbers the news organization put out, it sounds like he did a great job after the crash. But that just isn't the case. What the bias news didn't tell us is that he had the worst recovery in 50 years. Although his policies contributed jobs and record growth, they didn't tell you what kind of growth it was. Over 90% of his jobs were in service jobs. And many of those were low paying and part time and paid no benefits. (Poverty level under Obama breaks 50-year record ...
https://www.washingtontimes.com/.../obamas-rhetoric-on......

Jan 07, 2014 · A record 47 million Americans receive food stamps, about 13 million more than when he took office.

Recovery Has Created Far More Low-Wage Jobs Than Better-Paid ...
www.nytimes.com/2014/04/28/business/economy/...
Apr 27, 2014 · Economy Recovery Has Created Far More Low-Wage Jobs Than Better-Paid Ones
How good were the 10.9 million jobs under Obama?
Money.CNN.com/2016/11/04/news/economy/jobs-under-obama/...
Nov 03, 2016 · CNNMoney breaks down what kinds of jobs have been created and ... Almost all of the job gains under President Obama have been in so-called service jobs,

The deep recession wiped out primarily high-wage and middle-wage jobs. Yet the strongest employment growth during the sluggish recovery has been in low-wage work, at places like strip malls and fast-food restaurants.

In essence, the poor economy has replaced good jobs with bad ones. That is the conclusion of a new report from the National Employment Law Project, a research and advocacy group, analyzing employment trends four years into the recovery.

“Fast food is driving the bulk of the job growth at the low end — the job gains there are absolutely phenomenal,” said Michael Evangelist, the report’s author. “If this is the reality — if these jobs are here to stay and are going to be making up a considerable part of the economy — the question is, how do we make them better?”

The report shows that total employment has finally surpassed its pre-recession level. “The good news is we’re back to zero,” Mr. Evangelist said.

But job losses and gains have been skewed. Higher-wage industries — like accounting and legal work — shed 3.6 million positions during the recession and have added only 2.6 million positions during the recovery. But lower-wage industries lost two million jobs, then added 3.8 million.
HTTPS://www.nytimes.com/…/recovery-has-created-far-more-low…
77 percent of 2013 jobs were part-time positions ...
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/aug/2/part-timer-nation...
Aug 02, 2013 · Fully 77 percent of positions added to the market in 2013 have been part-time, in contrast to the positive economic news making the media rounds, according to payroll reports released in recent weeks.
"There are now 1.2 million fewer jobs in mid- and higher-wage industries than there were before the Great Recession, according to data from the National Employment Law Project. In contrast, there are 2.3 million more jobs in lower-wage sectors than before the recession," according to CNBC. Nor is there the hoped-for renaissance in American manufacturing. We have some 300,000 fewer manufacturing jobs since President Barack Obama took office and 1.5 million jobs below the pre-recession level.
https://www.usnews.com/news/the-report/articles/2015/08/23/the-part-time-economic-recovery

 

Welfare At All-Time High Under Obama

The latest government figures reveal that an astonishing number of people are collecting public benefits such as food stamps and disability checks, revealing an alarming trend of dependence on government rather than self-sufficiency associated with the American dream.

A record 5.4 million workers have applied for federal disability checks since President Obama took office, according to a news report that cites recent government figures. This is straining already-stretched government finances while posing a long-term economic threat by creating an ever-growing pool of permanently dependent working-age Americans, the report says.

Since the recession supposedly ended in mid 2009, the number of people who have applied for disability benefits is double the job growth figure, according the report which includes an informative chart. In just the first four months of this year, 539,000 joined the disability rolls and more than 725,000 applied for the federal benefit. That means nearly 11 million people are on disability, according to the Social Security Administration.

Also this week, government figures reveal that a record number are getting food stamps and the figure will keep rising. This is not surprising since the Obama Administration has promoted the program like there’s no tomorrow in an effort to eradicate “food insecure households.” In fact, the administration has spent millions of dollars to recruit even more food-stamp recipients and has doled out hefty cash rewards to states that sign up the most people. One state even bragged about a $5 million performance bonus it got from the feds for its “swift processing of applications.”https://www.judicialwatch.org/.../welfare-at-all-time.../

 

Please explain “made America great again only for himself.”

 

In contrast to Obama's economy and what they kept hid from us, Trump's was this and they told us only the rich got richer and all we got is crumbs from the table.

https://www.atr.org/thanks-trump-median-household-income-highest-level-ever

Real median household income has grown by $4,144 or 6.8 percent since President Trump took office, according to an op-ed published in the Wall Street Journal.
This data is based on a report released by Sentier Research analyzing the Census Bureau’s monthly Current Population Survey.
As noted in the op-ed, authored by Stephen Moore, real median household income is at an all-time high:
“Real median household income—the amount earned by those in the very middle—hit $65,084 (in 2019 dollars) for the 12 months ending in July. That’s the highest level ever and a gain of $4,144, or 6.8%, since Mr. Trump took office. By comparison, during 7½ years under President Obama—starting from the end of the recession in June 2009 through January 2017—the median household income rose by only about $1,000.”
The below chart highlights the strong Trump wage growth.


Economy & Politics: Income Gap Grows under Trump, Obama — but ...
www.nationalreview.com/2019/10/income-gap-growth...
Indeed, in a bit more than half of his term, Trump’s $5,003 mountain of growth in median household income is 346 percent higher than Bush-Obama’s $1,444 molehill of marginal middle-class earnings. https://www.nationalreview.com/.../income-gap-growth.../

 

Trump opened a door with that ban. A door that allows for any president to redefine what a machine gun is to ban a weapon without congressional approval. I will never downplay what he did. He also has advocated to ban silencers.

what’s to stop any democrat from redefining what a machine gun is? Don’t tell me they won’t because trump already has and everyone said “okay with me” and never raised a single objection. The NRA helped with the redefining of that rule as well. So I also dumped my NRA membership and every time they call me I let them know why and politely tell them to go F themselves.

Trump lost all my respect for that and will never get it back

 

Very much so! We need to go back to a point where politicians had to hold gainful employment and paid min wage for part time governance! In the digital age there is no need to house and feed these thieves when they can just do like we do and multitask between feeding their families and making better decisions that would then effect their lives.. What we have today is district of KINGS and QUEENS that will never give a crap about anyone or anything that doesn't enrich their life/lives..

Politicians need to put skin in the game like we do and our forefathers did!!

 

I think I already did. But if you didn't read that, read this.

There are more jobs than people out of work, something the American economy has never experienced before
https://www.cnbc.com/.../there-are-more-jobs-than-people...

Pay gains under Trump best since the Great Recession
www.cnbc.com › 2018/01/31 › pay-gains-under-trump...

Jan 31, 2018 - Workers looking for fatter paychecks had their best year in 2017 since before the financial crisis, according to a government report Wednesday.

Overlooked on economy? Rising paychecks for blue-collar ...
www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2019/08/14/blue...
Aug 14, 2019 • Blue-collar path to solid paycheck. And as blue-collar workers have seen their wallets thicken, highly educated white-collar workers’ wages have grown more modestly.

• Pay
gains under Trump best since the Great Recession
www.cnbc.com/2018/01/31/pay-gains-under-trumps...
Jan 31, 2018 • President Donald Trump's first full year in office saw gains that easily outdistanced any year for his predecessor, Barack Obama, whose best showing was the 2.2 percent increases in 2016 and 2014. Six of Obama's eight years in office saw gains of 2 percent or less.


Black and Hispanic unemployment is at a record low
www.cnbc.com/2019/10/04/black-and-hispanic...
Oct 04, 2019 · The jobless rate for Hispanics hit a record low of 3.9% in September, while African Americans maintained its lowest rate ever, 5.5%. The Hispanic women unemployment rate was 3.8% in September and

 

Another term with Donald Trump as the president would be disastrous for this country. Now the guy has a chip on his shoulder. Now he's going to want revenge. He would be even more petty, more childish, more vindictive, and more unhinged than he was the first time around. And he'll be the same age if he wins again as Dementia Joe is right now, which Trump supporters have told us is just too old.

But I fear that the progressive segment of this country did not learn the lessons of the 2016 and 2020 elections. They either cannot see, or refuse to, that the increasingly fanatical woke bullshit is how Donald Trump's get elected. Defying all logic and reason, they have clung to the working assumption that they lost because they weren't progressive enough.

I would like to see a return to the more moderate Republicans and Democrats of yesteryear, but that's likely not going to happen. Rabid and vocal fanatical segments of both parties are driving them into increasing levels of extremity. Even more than they are driving the political parties, they are driving the voters who those political parties pander to. None of it is going to help this country. Not a single bit.

The return of Donald Trump will signal yet again that we are headed for a train wreck because Donald Trump's don't get elected without an overpopulation of morons on both sides of the aisle.

 

They're called suppressors now How many you want..
suppressor - Bing

And I actually like the current name "AUTO LOADING"! Makes them sound like a really good washing machine.. I don't think Trump did much to hurt the firearm issue.. But I suppose, like the bump stock there must be some sacrificial lambs to appease the gun haters

 

It's already that under ByDumb!

 

The only real mistake Biden has made so far are the vaccine mandates, which are an extremely valid criticism of his administration. Everything else was going to happen anyway and would be getting blamed on the president no matter who the president was. The only difference would be in who was doing the blaming.

 

[QUOTE="Junkieturtle, post: 1073143422, member: 58514"]Another term with Donald Trump as the president would be disastrous for this country. Now the guy has a chip on his shoulder. Now he's going to want revenge. He would be even more petty, more childish, more vindictive, and more unhinged than he was the first time around. And he'll be the same age if he wins again as Dementia Joe is right now, which Trump supporters have told us is just too old.

But I fear that the progressive segment of this country did not learn the lessons of the 2016 and 2020 elections. They either cannot see, or refuse to, that the increasingly fanatical woke bullshit is how Donald Trump's get elected. Defying all logic and reason, they have clung to the working assumption that they lost because they weren't progressive enough.

I would like to see a return to the more moderate Republicans and Democrats of yesteryear, but that's likely not going to happen. Rabid and vocal fanatical segments of both parties are driving them into increasing levels of extremity. Even more than they are driving the political parties, they are driving the voters who those political parties pander to. None of it is going to help this country. Not a single bit.

The return of Donald Trump will signal yet again that we are headed for a train wreck because Donald Trump's don't get elected without an overpopulation of morons on both sides of the aisle.[/QUOTE]

 

Even better was this version.

 

I believe immigration is another And there are many others if we don't ignore them!

 

At least, for now, Binary Triggers are still legal. I installed these on a couple of my AR-15's. Lots of fun!

 

Trump would have never pulled out the troops from Afghanistan before he got the civilians out. Trump would have secured the border and not invited millions of low educated people to come in. Trump knew in order for this country to compete with others around the world, he would have kept the brightest foreign minds coming from our colleges. He would have recruited them from abroad. He would have continued to bring in people from all over the globe to give everyone a chance of the American dream, like we have been doing for decades. He would not try and makes Whites the minority in this country as Biden wants to do.

 

That’s pretty cool!
Lmao I love how it bleeped out the word “rifle”

 

Nobody expressed any reasons why they love Trump. So your (Reminds me of) is just you ranting.