Kindly explain Communism

The over 60's crowd has experienced what happens when idealism transforms into radicalism transforms into intolerance transforms into genocide which is part and parcel of communism. You should open your eyes and reject the intolerance that has defined progressives who have hijacked the Democratic Party. Never ever has a socialist government been formed that didn't transform into a genocidal Communist state. Don't point to the welfare states in Europe because they are not socialist states.

 

Communism works in No Way,shape or form.Unless and until
Catholic saints spend their entire lives doing right by Humanity,
in order to make Heaven.Then when in heaven,they find that everyone
eats the same food,sleeps in the same quarters and has the same
possessions,no matter how sparse.Until that is know for fact,then
Communism is a form of human bondage.
Earthlings can be rudderless as to what Heaven entails.
But shouldn't suffer the same myopic vision as to what Communism
entails.

 

Communism is what it is.Never good and only passable in
polite society when cowards run rampant with their slice of
the American pie.

 

Communism is as old as society is. We can see it in nuclear families, and we can see it with the protestant colonists who arrived at what is now known as Plymouth. The first Christian community was communist, which is where the word "community" is derived from. Basically, it means together. Communication, Community, Commitment, Committee, Commerce, Common, and Communism are just a few words that share the same basic root,

Basically, communism is a community who have all willingly agreed to a compact that stipulates communal property rights, as opposed to capitalism which is private property rights. When you become a communist, you give up private ownership of your own body, as well as everything you produce, and it is thrown into a communal property bucket.

This is why democrats love taxes. They look at what you have and think "that's part of the communal pot, so why are you living in a mansion and I'm living in a welfare shack?

Communist do have a vague understanding of private property rights as in "this shirt on my back is mine and not yours", but this does not extend to shirts in their closet. This creates a class system that they say they abhor. A communist looks at the total number of shirts in closets and start adding things up, which is why they talk about "the 1%" and "equal share".

You can always tell a communist by their fanatical usage of plural pronouns, and a general mindset of things that belong to groups, rather than individuals.

 

The following is one of the best posts in this thread. And yet, allow me to remind us all of a few facts.

Marx speculated and predicted just a tiny bit about what communism would be in general. He said it would come about when the state "withers away", and the only state that could lead to communism withering away was a stable, settled, functioning socialist state. That means that the characteristics of communism would be determined by what works in the socialist state and what is obsolete in that state. So we cannot authoritatively say what it would look like since no stable, settled, functioning socialist state has ever existed, let alone "withered away". So we don't know how property would be handled, how work and money would be managed, how selection of "public servants" would be handled, for example.

A bit of clarity on this is in order. Marx advocated the establishment of socialism and saw socialism leading to communist society in some distant future many generations away. And it is actually incorrect to refer to Marx as a "communist thinker". Marx wrote critiques of capitalism, but he never put forward an analysis of socialist economy or recommendations on how to structure it.

That's kinda-sorta accurate. More specifically, to stop "group A" from exploiting "B", it would be necessary for "group B" to exercise dictatorship over group A to stop them from exploiting. It's not really about "making things even". (This is actually a serious subject and therefore requires serious and principled discussion.)

NO!!! Not "tyranny"!!!! - - "The dictatorship of the proletariat"! . . . . -over the capitalists ("bourgeoisie").

Huh?

I'm getting dizzy....

That is the capitalist, anti-Marxian view. It's a bit more complex than that. Try this: Law of Values (the text pretty well follows the video, and other related videos are to the right in the list.)

Then why do they participate secretly in protests and commit vandalism and other such crimes?

The "overthrow part" that you refer to was the whole error that led to the total failure of the effort in the USSR and China. Since then Marxists have reviewed the history, studied it, and summed up to develop a new approach based on lessons from past failures. The new thrust is peaceful and simply consists of creating worker-owned, worker-directed cooperatives, and it is catching on fast. There are about 1,000 in the US and 5 states have passed legislation recently to provide a pathway for the creation of such co-ops.

 

Called that one

 

Communism is theoretically an evolution which brings well being for everyone but ultimately it is the product of drunken philosophers that knew not how to run an economy.

A degree of free market is always necessary.

 

I have to keep reminding myself that half the population has an IQ below 100.

 

"Kindly explain Communism" - Those that can't compete in the marketplace get ticked off and then try to steal from those that can compete in the marketplace.....it didn't work in the USSR, and it's doomed to failure long-term.

 

Kim Jong Un loves it, so it can't be all that bad!

 

The USSR and Cuba seem to be doing ok, though.

 

boobies

 

But you get "free" health care, so it's ok!!

 

Excellent observation, Belch!

And it's this very truth of communism which the Progressive and Cafe Communist is completely incapable of sustaining. They absolutely cannot do full compromise and conformity ... the two most essential features of working communism.

 

and do nothing to earn it, right? just keep being a Performance Artist, drunk, and cafe philosopher. 'cause that goes down real well on the commune, when the kale needs harvesting.

 

Why, when the horrible reality of that keeps slapping us in the face?

Look at the delicate, self-indulgent, uber safe kids .. championing a thing they know nothing of and could never hope to tolerate. If that isn't a constant face slap of just how dumb people are, nothing is.

 

Drunken philosophers who were all from the upper classes. It's just the eugenics of the bored and the rich.

 

"Republicans", I think is the official scientific term.

 

Jesus was basically a communist: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_communism

 

Communism is the real movement to abolish the present state of things. Nothing less than the complete and continual negation of capital can be considered communist. The old left thought that they could control capital and turn it to socialist ends, but they proved wrong.

 

Don't you know(?): it's free if the government pays for it!

 

Yes, leftists seem to get a LOT of things wrong, of course.

 

You understand that bodies of thought grow and change and split into new branches with time, yes?

 

Question: are you here to discuss intelligently or to be a clown?

 

Yes. They thought that an economy completely regulated by the state can be competitive in the long run with capitalist countries. They don' t realize that you can nationalise everything, effectively killing free market, but this also kills competition, as everything is provided by the state.

So the people have no reason for improving themselves and to think freely, as the state provides everything and you must accept your role as an obedient serf of the state.