More than 52,000 Canadians left the country for medical care in 2014

30,000,000 still uninsured by Obamacare.

 

You do know that Obamacare still leaves 30,000,000 uninsured, don't you? How many of thsoe 30,000,000 have cancer? Obamcare screwed them.

Only two elements of the ACA were needed. No preexistings and no lifetime cap. The rest was nothing but a govt takeover of who we can see and where we can go for HC. My Leukemia would have been covered just fine without Obamcare. Cancer patients with insurance were not denied. Nor were those on Medicaid. So your contention is false.

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I would bet it is for alternative treatments they cannot get elsewhere.

 

If you are a Canadian, you need to buy extra insurance for what the govt does not cover if you can. Like meds and dental. So what is that?

 

The insurance companies were quite clear, they would stop offering health care insurance if pre-existing conditions were required to be covered and caps lifted without also requiring mandatory coverage. Is the ACA perfect, no, but over 16 million who did not have coverage now do, and none of the republican proposals would have covered more an 1 to 2 million.

 

Huh? What nations offer procedures for hearing and dental issues that we do not?

Buy your meds online from Canada. I used to.

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Yes and yes. But you have to buy dental separately.

 

As I linked in this post http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=401021&p=1064843707#post1064843707 about 6 million per year are going outside the U.S. for care.

 

You mean meds and dental are covered in the US? Read the posit Pal!

 

If you like higher taxes, waiting lists, having to pay for things that are covered in our insurance, go to Canada.

 

Yeah pal. My meds are paid for by my insurance pal.So is my dental pal. Not in Canada.

 

Preexistings are gone.............

https://www.healthcare.gov/health-care-law-protections/pre-existing-conditions/

So are caps................

http://aspe.hhs.gov/health/reports/2012/lifetimelimits/ib.shtml

Obama promised to cover everyone. He lied. 30,000,000 had nothing in 2009, 30,000,00 still have nothing after the ACA was signed.

 

many offer it cheaper, never said anything about them offering procedures or devices we do not.... many go outside the country due to costs


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The only way the insurance companies would agree to removing the pre-existing conditions and caps was for the government to mandate that people buy coverage. The fact that 28 states refused the expansion of Medicaid is the primary reason that many more people were unable to get coverage, they fell into the gap below the 400% of poverty line and the old 150% of poverty line most of those states use to grant Medicaid (some lower). That group does not qualify for the subsidies the ACA gives most users. The earn too much for Medicaid and not enough to afford coverage on the exchanges and most are exempted from the mandate because the insurance would cost more than 8% of their annual income.

Obama never promised coverage for everyone, he promised a program that would cover most people, and it would have had the SCOTUS not declared that forcing the States to expand Medicaid was unconstitutional, allowing the majority of states to opt out of that portion of the ACA.

 

The mandate was always there.

And Obama promised to cover EVERYONE...............

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/washington/obama-campaign-promise-tracker.htm

Quote: "I have made a solemn pledge that I will sign a universal health care bill into law by the end of my first term as president that will cover every American and cut the cost of a typical family's premiums by up to $2,500 a year." - Hartford, Conn., June 23, 2007

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Like where? Where is it cheaper to go for those types of procedures? Include the costs of travel and lodging too.

 

Weird, most insurance plans don't. Even Medicare, that's why Dubya/GOP pushed through an UNFUNDED Medicare Part D, you know without a penny of new revenues? But back to my original, uncontested (because it's factual) posit, NO UHC NATION WANTS A US STYLE SYSTEM. Weird right Pal? lol

 

The uninsured rate has been falling since the fourth quarter of 2013, after hitting an all-time high of 18.0% in the third quarter -- a sign that the Affordable Care Act, commonly referred to as "Obamacare," appears to be accomplishing its goal of increasing the percentage of Americans with health insurance coverage. Even within this year's first quarter, the uninsured rate fell consistently, from 16.2% in January to 15.6% in February to 15.0% in March. And within March, the rate dropped more than a point, from 15.5% in the first half of the month to 14.5% in the second half -- indicating that enrollment through the healthcare exchanges increased as the March 31 deadline approached.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/168248/uninsured-rate-lowest-2008.aspx


What has been happening to the uninsured under the ACA?

Under the ACA, as of 2014, Medicaid coverage is expanded to nearly all adults with incomes at or below 138% of poverty in states that expand, and tax credits are available for people who purchase coverage through a health insurance Marketplace. Early data suggest that the ACA has helped expand coverage to millions of previously uninsured people, but some—particularly poor adults in states that do not expand Medicaid—are still left without affordable coverage.

http://kff.org/uninsured/fact-sheet/key-facts-about-the-uninsured-population/

 

Since when is the number of people that have access the basis of the quality of care, especially from my perspective.

If I can personally get care in this country in 1 week from a specialist, as opposed to waiting 10 weeks in Canada, from my perspective, our system is superior.

MY basis for quality of MY care has nothing to do with YOUR ability to get care as well.

 

I bet you stand to benefit from single payer.

I had fantastic access to great healthcare before Obamacare.

LOL

Because all you care about is your failed collectivism ideology. You don't care if the people ACTUALLY paying for service are getting value, all you care about is if those people are going to pay for the subsidizing of everybody else, and then in your envious non-sensical agenda, you tell those people paying to get lost.

Race to the bottom.

Thats all you have.

 

30,000,000 still uninsured, everyone not covered like Obama promised.

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And you're wrong. I never had a plan that didn't. Now run to Canada and pay extra for what we don't. Sound good pal?

 

you ever tried to get false teeth or a hearing aid.... obviously not

even prescription are cheaper overseas, but people fear ordering them because of the war on drugs

"As More Americans Have Surgeries Overseas, US Companies Consider 'Medical Tourism' a Health Care Option"

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/americ...nies-medical-tourism-health/story?id=20423011

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One more time. What nations provide those cheaper than the US including your travel and lodging costs?

 

I added a link to above post.... but sure you can use google too, many links

http://www.outsideonline.com/advent...-Injury-Will-Travel-Health-Care-Overseas.html

" In 2013, some 900,000 Americans are expected to seek treatment overseas."

900,000 OMG and Canada only had 52,000, imagine that....

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Your link answered nothing. Thanks. Use Google better.

 

India and Thailand.
Links to news stories about this.
http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/video/american-companies-send-workers-surgery-vacations-20426170

http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/0816/p03s03-usec.html

 

sure it did, learn to read better, like i said, many more out their if you want to do your own google search...


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So how about the person who does not have the company pick up the tab? I could go anywhere too if someone else pays for it. "Nothing out of my pocket," Guion said. How nice for him

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It had nothing about dental or hearing. Thanks for playing.