Stop it! Refugees are NOT a problem!

That is total nonsense. Crossing some border illegaly is how only about half have come.

And, we've done nothing for the rest. We've done nothing to reduce the reason for coming here.

And, there is NO possibility of removing the number who are here by any substantial amount.

Every politician is well aware that such an attempt would BE a federal war on Hispanics - which would have serous political ramifications.

 

Reagan showed no interest in it. It was simplly put off as Democrats agreed to Reagan's insistence on significant budget cuts. It would have been terminal for Democrats to cut social services while adding tens of billions for the border when Reagan was offering no support. Reagan KNEW that.

AND, Reagan could have brought that up as a following issue. But, he didn't.

Maybe he was too busy committing impeachable offenses with Iran and the Sandinistas.

 

What's different other then my great grands had the common sense to at least be able to communicate in English and one side was Slovenian and the other Italian, then again they weren't so delusional as to think they were entitled to simply plop their ass's down and expect the left wing to protect them either ¯\_(º¸º)_/¯

 

There IS a critical lesson to absorb here.

Making tradeoffs from one congress to the next very rarely if ever works.

And, that is one of a couple reasons that attempts to address immigration in a piecemeal fashion is not going to be acceptable anymore.

That's why the 2013 bill addressed the full problem as one bill.

That allows for negotiations and concessions where the outcome is known - not a wish and a promise for something in the future, when the political climate may be very different.

 

Ya for you, but I doubt it will happen And Reagan and the Republican party quickly learned that

 

LOL

It DID almost happen in 2013. It COULD have happened, but Boehner blocked it from coming to a vote.

Republicans WERE in favor of that bill, as were most, but not all, Democrats.

We CAN do this. But, quite possibly not whle spewing idiocy like your Reagan story and/ or white supremacy.

The only real question is whether we want to solve it.

Or, is it just going to be used as a white supremacist dog whistle in Republican campaigns?

 

You'll learn, It ALMOST always happens That way it's always "All things to all PEOPLE"! Politics, it really aint that hard buddy ¯\_(º¸º)_/¯

 

No.

The 2013 bipartisn immigration bill is absolutely NOT "all things to all people".

In fact, it's not even "all things to the major constituencies who created the bill".

America CAN BE and HAS BEEN successful with congress functioning as our founders intended.

Saying America can't make it's own dang system work is really pathetic.

 

Can you read an entire two sentence post without zeroing in one one or two words? I said, "enforce our laws. " When found.....deport. It;s illegal entry or violating their VISA...comprehend? I've been talking about this for 30 years. Had we started back then, it would be far less of a problem. Bite the bullet and do it now! Ike Eisenhauer deported thousands in the 50's. "Operation Wetback" it was called. Deport once and if they return, give them a stint cleaning up our forests! Liberals always prefer to say" our immigration system is broken". How asinine. I say, "you have to enforce our laws to even see if it works!" It SHOULD be a Federal war on anyone denying our sovereignty over our borders!

 

WTF? What "justification" are you talking about?

 

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My first sentence "zeroed in" on the wall - which addresses how only a fraction enter the US and which you mentioned.

And I made statements about the possibility of removing any substantil percent of those who are here.

Nobody but a white supremacist would suggest Eisenhower's program. I don't believe he meant it to be as horrendous as it was. But, that won't happen again.

Making 20 MILLION or so permanent residents enemies of the state is a gigantic problem with major racist overtones. The polcing and other services of every city are negatively impacted. Such a war against Hispanics would have major political ramifications.

 

I'll tell you WTF.....you said "They cross the border illegally because we don't process them. " and I said "that is a pretty lame justification/" Let me help you there.
You seem to justify foreign invaders violating our laws merely because we don't process them. As a sovereign nation isn't it our option to process? Just because foreign nationals don't like our system you justify their illegal invasion? It seems, Golem, you just don't like these United States and you dismiss them at every turn. Isn't it a wonder that American citizens that love and feel a duty to this nation find you quite disdainful?

 

Of course you can always fall back on race.....that is the mode of operation for leftists. I have many friends that are of Mexican heritage and they tolerate my Scotch Irish heritage. What qualifies a "permanent resident"? Someone who obeys our laws and respects our sovereignty? You don't seem to think so. But then again you don't seem to be for enforcing our laws. That figures. I said merely "enforce our immigration laws" and you fall back on the limp wristed liberal tactic of implying I am a white supremacist.If there are 20 million enemies of the state....it is because the likes of you permitted their violations. Now we are gonna play by the rules and if it hurts some feelings so be it. We don't have to round them up. We just deport them when found. Eventually it takes care of itself when we enforce our laws. When I talk about illegal invaders, I don't mention any race. That is on you!!

 

you think easy abortion and narcissism accounts for a lot of that?

 

You couldn't be more correct there. If we enforced our laws, which we are starting to do, it will stop them from coming here illegaly.

 

We have 40-50 million illegals here
Most are illiterate peasants and many are dangerous criminals

 

That's not a "justification". If you read (and understand) the context, you would realize that I'm talking about the fact that we can't process them while other countries (even underdeveloped countries) can.

Try again. But, this time... concentrate!

 

Show reference! Omit if reference is somebody's anal cavity.

 

Underdeveloped countries do not have a major problem because there is not a lot of people who want to go there.

 

You have no idea what you're saying.

 

Show me where I am wrong.

 

You having trouble understanding that the deeds of 1986 effected the outcome of immigration bill of 2013 LMFAO! Like a rock hahah

 

Now you must focus. Entering our country illegally has absolutely nothing to do with how we process. We are a sovereign nation. If they like the processing of underdeveloped countries better....they need to go there. But they prefer to come here because they can steal our entitlements.They prefer to come here, that is, until you and other liberals give away our success until we become like other undeveloped countries. The mind of a true globalist that desires a one world concentration of power!

 

Here

http://www.politicalforum.com/index...-not-a-problem.557708/page-11#post-1071474230

And the fact that you make a statement with zero arguments to support it (as you usually do) is the evidence that you're wrong (as you usually are).

Of course, you could also have read the OP before you said that nonsense. The fact that you didn't read it means you're not even trying. So why should I?

 

That's the way I read it too! But isn't that the way of the left? We are "Americans" the souls cause/blame of all the Ill's of the world, although in the case of migrant they think this country is GREAT and risk everything to come here.. Could it be any more ass backwards? ¯\_(º¸º)_/