Trump administration separated families. Reuniting them is a giant mess.

You seem to be the one worried about it Max, not me. Look you're not going to get a Himba tribesman to integrate into the modern world and you don't want him in it either. Put them into Western society and they'll rapidly become beggars almost without exception. They much rather prefer a stone age culture with a few modern products. They're happy that way but they'll stay that way. They might decide to worship the moon but they'll never ever go there.

 

Agreed, and that has been happening for decades. Still, there are a few things we can do in this country to stop drawing illegals here. It's not being done by either side in Congress and I suspect the reason is the Almighty Buck.

 

Probably. How else should it be handled?

These people cross the border at some isolated spot, and then when caught, claim the minors with them are family. No documents, nothing to support their claim.

Can the US government take responsibility for keep child traffickers together with their victims? I don't think so.

So, DNA test? Yes, probably the fastest way to prove a familiar connection.

 

Not saying that you are wrong, but how do they establish if that is your kid or not. Do they do blood test, DNA........

 

You are correct, they never punish the folks who are hiring the illegals.

 

I see this problem in two parts: Handling the current situation and preventing it from happening again. The current situation is a simple logistical concern. Incarcerate all and process them. Relation can be done with interviews and/or DNA/paternity testing. Prevention is tougher since it requires legislation from Congress to eliminate the reasons foreigners are drawn to illegally enter the US or overstay their visas.

 

No. It was Obama who separated families. Shame on mean, heartless Obama!

 

Would you accept making Voter ID the law of the land as long as it wasn't used as a poll tax and IDs were granted to all US citizens? If so, another law (or a paragraph in the same bill) could require all employers, renters, banks and other appropriate industries to require seeing a person's Voter ID prior to completing any transactions or business deals.

 

How many are still separated from his administration? How many kids were lost or failed to be united with their parents?

 

I agree also, with one rather large difference. I don't feel that the majority choose to come spontaneously or that the 'feel the need' is purely organic. This is especially true for those comming from the Northern Triangle of South America. It's very expensive to travel thousands of miles. Even on foot, traveling independently, it takes about $4,000 minimum.

These migrants are paid and supported for the duration of their travel to the border.

 

No idea. What is evident is that Trump administration is enforcing the laws and policies of previous administrations.

 

From what I've been able to learn, there are problems with sufficient facilities, and there are certain laws that complicate the process.

Relations would be difficult to use as a basis for confirmation of family ties, given that, from what I've read, the people subjected to this process have no documentation at all. So how does one confirm a relative is who they say they are? Seems to me DNA testing would be the fastest and most accurate method.

I agree, the whole thing is a mess. Think about the child pictured in that Time magazine sham. Turns out the child was never separated from the mother, but what went unnoticed was the words from the Father, who said he had no idea his wife was going to leave with his kid. That woman kidnapped the mans child!

So how does ICE and CBP sort all this out? It's a serious problem, and the left desperately trying to blame the President for it is simply pathetic.

 

Defend what? Who gives two shits where those kids are? That's all on their parents from bringing them here illegally. Bad things happen when you do unlawful things. Selfish parents caused this when they broke the law. Why aren't you out looking for them?

 

They have proof. The US is taking away documents when they are arrested.

If you really wanted to match kids, you would do that before you separate them.

 

Hopefully Trump will pay for those bad things he has done.

 

They're illegals. They don't belong here. I don't care what is done with them; they could have avoided this situation by staying home.

 

If they are old enough questions alone can do it. How old are you, what's your uncles name, what street did you live on, what school did you go to....... Then compared to the adults answers.

Toddlers, a DNA test would be definitive.

 

There was a problem with the Obama admin releasing kids to human traffickers without verifying any familial relationship.

 

Yet it's one of the few things that are constantly brought up on these threads. IMO, it's a half truth. It's like the anti-gunners who keep bringing up "30,000" gun deaths without mentioning that over 20,000 of those deaths are suicides. It's deceptive and, IMO, a deliberate attempt to hide the truth.

As for "enforcing laws", 1) Presidents can choose how to interpret certain laws like in this case. 2) As Trump proved previously, he can sign a piece of paper and change the policy. 3) Constantly blaming Obama is a weak, lame and Beta male as Obama constantly blaming Bush.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/20/politics/trump-separation-action-immigration/index.html
President Donald Trump on Wednesday reversed his debunked argument that he had no authority to stop separations of undocumented immigrant families at the border, signing an executive order to keep parents and kids together.

"We're signing an executive order. I consider it to be a very important executive order. It's about keeping families together, while at the same time being sure we have a very powerful, very strong border," Trump said.

 

Linked evidence about what happened?

 

I have never read that before. Please post a link from a legitimate government source that confirms that.

People with documents etc., are kept together. Simple proof of that is the case Time magazine further eliminated their credibility with. That mother and child were kept together. Explain how they were kept together if what you claim was true.

How does the government match kids with adults who have no proof who they are? Just take their word for it? Would you be able to sleep at night knowing you let a child trafficker take their victim with them?

 

http://dailycaller.com/2018/06/17/flashback-obama-hhs-migrant-children-human-traffickers/

"The Associated Press reported two years ago that in April 2014 the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services relaxed its safety standards to promptly move migrant children out of government shelters and into sponsors’ homes when waves of illegal aliens surged across the southern border.

However, according to the AP’s reporting, the lowered standards resulted in children landing in unsafe homes where they were “sexually assaulted, starved or forced to work for little or no pay.”"

 

Deflection noted. Shouldn't you be out looking for the parents of these pitiful children that were brought here illegally?

 

BINGO.

 

Help me out here, so how does that punish the folks who are hiring illegals.