Virginia Governor Defends Letting Infants Die

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  1. Mac-7

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    Since you dont accept God as the Creator of all life I will not debate that with you

    Liberals always say we are a secular nation so you cant have it both ways
     
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    You might want to re phrase to actually, you know, make sense.
     
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    Our Maternal Mortality rate isn't very good but your claim is made up BS.
     
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    No, liberals are truly evil

    I dont think America will last very long after the left destroys all moral standards
     
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    I was asking for your opinion, but feel free not to want to answer... lol
     
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    How does it not make sense? Is the problem that you don’t know what “non-viable” means?
     
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    the right elected Trump, one of the most unmoral President we have ever had
     
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    How is it evil if a baby God has murdered by making non-viable dies?

    Maybe you shouldn’t be worshipping such an evil God who would make a baby so severely deformed that they are non-viable.
     
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    I’m not interested in your opinion about God

    So I have no interest in doscisdong ot with you
     
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    When he was young he was a liberal and very immoral

    Now he’s older and more conservative
     
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    So you do believe in God?

    How unliberal of you
     
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    Yes. We rejected an even more immoral, evil person.
     
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    No, but the Right does. Your supposedly good God made these children non-viable. So if you don’t want to be hypocrite, you have to call out God for being evil.
     
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    I wont debate God with people who are too dense to believe

    Its a waste of my time
     
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    Right, because if you were to be morally consistent and not a hypocrite, you would have to call your God evil because they would be the one making the babies this law affects non-viable.

    Your God is the evil being dooming these children to die shortly after they are born.
     
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    How many steps away is this from government agency determines cost of life is too great and steps in to impose it's will to kill a child out of "respect" to the society.... This is the opening through which that kind of governmental interference makes it into the playing field. And of course Tran knows this. National health care. Viability boards. what happens when "white" becomes the birth "defect" democrats can't endure? The slope slides easily once you get past the initial interference of government.
     
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    It’s the exact same number of steps as when any other next of kin decides not to maintain a non-viable person on life support. So does that mean you want to abrogate all DNR’s in America and force people to keep their dying family on life support?
     
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    what would you do if the parasite was birthed with half a head, three arms & a foot (no legs)... me, i'd flush it down the toilet, at least here they're talking about using sedatives to make it painless...
     
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    Quote:
    "and it’s done in cases where there may be severe deformities. There may be a fetus that’s non-viable.”
     
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    Mac-7 doesn’t have the balls to do that.
     
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    Lets keep things friendly. Its okay to believe that a baby should be saved to live in a vegetative state with no quality of life. Its just not okay to force that belief on others.
     
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    You assert an answer not addressed in the question. Interesting deflection though. The bill doesn't make this conditional, it make the request for abortive service unconditional up to and including labor. I simply cannot believe that anyone would defend this.

    Clearly, you aren't aware of the difference that the insertion of informed consent provides. If I determine that I am unwilling to allow medical service to use extraordinary means to keep sucking money out of my bank to keep me alive, that of course is my right under the law. That, however, isn't available to the just born child who has no ability to determine this on its own. Changing the law to allow parents under consultation with their physician to determine whether the physician would kill a living child is beyond horrific. And what is entirely amazing to me is that suddenly, it's liberals asking for the ability to accomplish this like suddenly they've crafted modern day Sparta or something. Why not just have a pit where irresponsible mothers can fling their unwanted kids into? What's the difference?
     
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    Letting newborns with severe multiple birth defects die has been standard practice forever.
     
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    Correct, it goes to the next of kin, the same way it would if an adult with no previous DNR was non-viable due to disease or injury as well as incapacitated and the choice was between life support or letting them die.
     

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