We are surely going to see a blood bath in the USA...

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  1. Gator

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    Good question, so I looked up crime in Australia. http://www.nationmaster.com/compare/Australia/United-States/Crime

    Australian / American Crime stats
    Assault victims 2.4% / 1.2%
    Believe in police efficiency 76% / 89%
    Perception of safety Walking in dark 64% / 82%
    Rape Victims 1.0% / 0.4%
    Suicide rates in ages 15-24 14.6 per 100,000 people / 13.7 per 100,000 people
    Suicide rates in ages 25-34 18.7 per 100,000 people / 15.3 per 100,000 people

    Total crime victims 30.1% / 21.1%
    DEFINITION: People victimized by crime (as a % of the total population). Data refer to people victimized by one or more of 11 crimes recorded in the survey: robbery, burglary, attempted burglary, car theft, car vandalism, bicycle theft, sexual assault, theft from car, theft of personal property, assault and threats. Crime statistics are often better indicators of prevalence of law enforcement and willingness to report crime, than actual prevalence.
    Ranked 1st. 43% more than United States Ranked 15th.


    Its not a complete picture by any means, but Australia isnt paradise.
    Gun related crime is lower in Australia, but overall crime seems to be worse in Australia.

    So to answer your question, I would carry a gun in Australia.
     
  2. gamewell45

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    You and I will just have to agree to disagree on this thread.
     
  3. RPA1

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    Fully automatic machine guns are NOT generally legal to own. So-called 'assault rifles' (available to the typical user) are somewhat like semi-auto hunting rifles and shot-guns in the way they handle and fire ammo. 1-finger-pull, 1-shot unlike a fully automatic which will empty a magazine with just 1 finger-pull of the trigger.

    This human debris in Colorado had a semi-auto rifle that jammed during the slaughter and I read it was speculated that he was trying to pull the trigger too fast and it jammed on him.

    If there were armed folks in that theater they could have seized the opportunity to unload on the guy. Even with ballistic armor multiple shots would have incapacitated him long enough to either subdue or kill him.
     
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    I see the Euro's attacking us for our guns, but not for our abandonment of public mental health.

    Starting in the 1960's, a movement known as deinstitutionalization began, to empty out state mental hospitals in favor of local treatment centers. Well, the local treatment centers never arrived in the amount to handle the the people we kicked out of mental hospitals. So now the streets of American cities are filled with homeless people screaming to no one about transmitters in their brains. So crazy people have no where to go, and we used to identify crazy people a lot easier. Of course I'm guessing that this particular killer is crazy, rather than having some sort of agenda, but right now I'm going with crazy.
     
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    High Schools used to have competitive rifle teams.
     
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    I call BS. That sounds like a made-up number.
     
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    While I don't own any weapons of any sort, if I felt it necessary to defend myself outside of my home, then yes, I'd definitely be willing to carry a shotgun or rifle with me. I think anyone seeing you with a weapon of that sort, would think twice before attempting to harass you.
     
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    That Canada has less crime.
     
  9. MisLed

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    I can't do that. I need my hands for looking thru clothes racques. Plus, i don't think a shotgun goes well with capris.
     
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    We surely have seen a bloodbath in the USSR, Germany, China, Japan, Cambodia, Vietnam, Poland, Pakistan, and Iraq. Is there currently a bloodbath in Syria?

    We haven't had a bloodbath in America since we fought for independence and the war of northern aggression on our own people. That was another case of democide. Don't even give me slavery, that was a side note.

    Governments create bloodbaths. Not lone nut anomalies. Sorry you don't get that because you've lived a life of peace so far in your short time on earth. Do liberals struggle with scales?

    12 dead <<<<<<<<< millions

    Other violent crimes in America are mostly from inner city violent criminals who mostly just shoot each other. Criminals who would still get guns, just like they still get drugs. Law abiding citizens would be left to fend for themselves against these criminals with slingshots. They also stay away from our houses because they don't know what's behind that door.

    Go bother Switzerland about guns. They have more in common with you.
     
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    Very true. If Hitler could not have taken the guns away he would have not been able to kill six million of them. Why are these gun-grabbers so anti-Semitic?
     
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    I cannot see how we will avoid a horrible blood bath, due to people's stupidity and intransigence. We can't even embrace decency and common sense anymore. :(
     
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    And too many people want to own firearms but do not want to accept any social responsibility for accountability or safety.

    I just want a little more discipline among gun owners and some way of keeping them out of the hands of lunatics and terorists.
     
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    Are you aware that the last gun-grab under federal authority occurred under Bush the Lesser?
     
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    Got some figures on how many Concealed carry gun owners have committed crimes of aggression or acts of stupidity. I didn't think so.
     
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    Hey, all for Democracy, and reason.

    If I saw that punk with the (*)(*)(*)(*)ing red hair with a gun in hand, and I had my 9, I would have laid his ass out dead. Would not have shot anyone else. Just HIM.

    After that, they can charge me with whatever the F they want. Cause I just saved the lives of the rest of the audience.

    This is the kind of @#$ that ruins the ideals of Liberal philosophy. This punk with red hair, is now trying to act all like he was just on drugs, and he is innocent, and he need us to understand his mental problem.

    (*)(*)(*)(*) HIM! And (*)(*)(*)(*) his god(*)(*)(*)(*)ed mother too, who (*)(*)(*)(*) well knew in advance he had a problem, AND DID NOTHING.

    Put her sorry ass in prison too.
     
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    I'm not impressed or convinced by your bluster.

    I've heard real experts say that taking that guy out would have been extremely difficult. And I'm a military marksman myself... I have little doubt from personal experience that he would have been VERY hard to take down (considering the situation).
     
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    It includes suicides and accidents.
     
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    from the way he gave up with the jammed gun and meekly turning himself over to the police, i think he would have pooped in his mess kit if he'd seen someone else with a gun. He's a coward. Look at him. Doesn't even have the balls to stand up to what he did. Now he's playing poor little crazy boy. And someone called him extraordinarily intelligent. just like the unibomber.
     
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    Governments slaughter people all over the world and in their own nations, but liberals sure want more of that, and to hand power to higher and higher levels. Wide-scale governments are the biggest threat on earth. Always have been.

    Scaling down these massive machines of war and deceit would save more lives than any new law from those same entities.
     
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    So you oppose handguns yet favor weapons that are more powerful.

    Why?
     
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    She did not know. When she said, "you have the right person", she was talking about herself being James Holmes mother.
     
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    Right wingers are just as guilty as the lefties.
     
  25. Johnny-C

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    YOU don't know; YOU are speculating heavily. Please, just stop making things up.
     
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