'Well, where are all the English people?'

Well said Jonsa....The arguments of those who say that a) the strife within society is somehow the cause of immigrants who apparently refuse to assimilate culturally into an ill-defined culture and b) that immigration necessarily increase the rate of unemployment, are talking out of their hats.

 

Firstly, by defintion, illegal immigrants are not imported as a matter of policy. Do you understand the logical flaw in your statement? Secondly, legal immigrants are imported clearly because unemployed workers of the host country for whatever reason are not taking poorly paid jobs being filled by the said immigrants...This ain't rocket science.

 

A Brit winning a gold medal for his nation in Daegu ;



That's Mohammed Farah , incidentally.

 

Brit knocks out American ,wins IBF title in Las Vegas;



Sorry, British muslim, Amir Khan.

Now then, drag out that white toff ********, David Cameron, and ask him again about the failure of UK multiculturalism.

 

"Slow learners," indicates that learning is possible. Liberals don't believe in learning, they believe in "CHANGE," sadly the only change they provide is from bad to worse.

Liberals celebrate multiculturalism. When a city or country is made up of islands of ethnic solidarity, that is not multiculturalism. That is a divisive society.

 

You got one of those random-word composition software things, right ?

 

There aren't a lot of liberals here, and a bloody disaster they are, supporting the conservatives in destroying what bits of rubble thatcher left. Why do you characters keep on about 'liberals' or 'middle class' when you mean something else?

 

This just sounds like plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose. Most countries that take in large numbers of immigrants have a regressive element that resents the newcomers. Just shrug and ignore them.

 

Fine. What if they're the government ?

 

So now I'm supposed to be thinking what you have decided I'm thinking. That is a egregious and erroneous liberal trait. And I'm talking about loony leftist, liberal Democrats. Whatever imaginary monsters that are loose in your head, are not a problem for me.

 

Well, since my gt-grandfather was the last Liberal in my family, it's not a problem for me either, except in understanding what on earth you mean.

 

It is not a liberal trait. It is a type of character who always knows what others are thinking, usually without evidence to prove it.

 

Yes. Although it doesnt take much to be considered a credible source on what John Cleese said on Australian TV.

 

Baseless allegation.

 

New York is a very cosmopolitan city, and in many respects, it's probably more that way than London.

Whatever the case, I'd have to agree that a certain amount of diversity is interesting, but like anything, there is a point where it can be excessive.

The most important thing to retain is a common language. It doesn't matter if the language is native to the region or not -- it's just important that the vast majority of an area can communicate effectively.

Having some cultural common ground is nice as well. Assimilation is a better model for societal evolution than multiculturalism.

Granted, assimilation is a two-way street. Both the "native" culture and immigrant cultures must make concessions for each other.

 

Well here's how it goes down in London...

Hardly what I would call an immigrant "slum."

 

In the United States illegal aliens contribute about 11 Billion a year to taxes. http://blog.seattlepi.com/seattlepo...-paid-11-2b-in-taxes-ge-paid-0-ny-daily-news/

Illegal aliens cost American taxpayers $113 Billion a year for the education, health care, and welfare of illegal aliens and their anchor babies.

It has been estimated that for $296 Billion the United States could DEPORT
all 12,000,000 illegal aliens in less than five years. This is a bargain and a good investment. DEPORT, DEPORT, DEPORT.

 

In the United States illegal aliens contribute about 11 Billion a year to taxes. http://blog.seattlepi.com/seattlepo...-paid-11-2b-in-taxes-ge-paid-0-ny-daily-news/

Illegal aliens cost American taxpayers $113 Billion a year for the education, health care, and welfare of illegal aliens and their anchor babies. http://www.fairus.org/site/News2?page=NewsArticle&id=23198&security=1601&news_iv_ctrl=1741

It has been estimated that for $296 Billion the United States could DEPORT
all 12,000,000 illegal aliens in less than five years. This is a bargain and a good investment. DEPORT, DEPORT, DEPORT!

 

In the United States illegal aliens contribute about 11 Billion a year to taxes. http://blog.seattlepi.com/seattlepo...-paid-11-2b-in-taxes-ge-paid-0-ny-daily-news/

Illegal aliens cost American taxpayers $113 Billion a year for the education, health care, and welfare of illegal aliens and their anchor babies. http://www.fairus.org/site/News2?page=NewsArticle&id=23198&security=1601&news_iv_ctrl=1741

It has been estimated that for $296 Billion the United States could DEPORT
ALL 12,000,000 illegal aliens in less than five years. This is a bargain and a good investment. DEPORT, DEPORT, DEPORT!

 

Partisan claptrap. Yes, paint people who have a different political position than you as stupid and ignorant, so you can feel superior. Only trouble is you aren't in any way.

Stridently adhering to a particular political ideology means your mind is closed to any alternatives, that you cannot co-operate with others and compromise is losing. I won't mention that most of the ideologues around here are pretty good at insults and pretty ignorant of facts - oh I just did.......



Yes, multiculturalism is a postive and enriching policy. I do agree with you tho that "islands of ethnic solidarity" is not multiculturalism. Its more like ghettoization.

 

To a liberal this is compromise. If you will agree with me I will stop sticking needles in your eyes 30 times a minute. If you go along with the liberal policy, we will only stick needles in your eyes every 10 seconds.

But because conservatives say NO MORE needles in the eyes, liberals say conservatives won't compromise.

 

Is that why ethnic groups tend to stick to their own for generation after generation, or cling tightly to their nation of origin?

The proof that multiculturalism creates social strife is self evident. You're an ideologue who is unwilling to accept things for what they are.

Try disproving what I've said.

They work for less because it's better than what they have at home, and this business of them being harder workers is simply propaganda... you're parroting talking points.

Right... try telling this to African, Middle Eastern, South American, and some Asian nations. Go preach to those mostly homogenous nations.

You've got things backwards and you seem to assume that a majority population must assimilate to an immigrant culture without objection... if not, they're obviously racist and yada yada.

The only thing you got me on is a flaw of semantics.

Illegal immigration - approximately $113billion

Offshore banking - approximately $80billion

I notice you made no attempt to prove your allegation.

 

"Ideologue " ? Hmmm , that makes a change from all the other things I've been called.

Perhaps it takes a few ideologues, not "willing to accept things as they are ", - to find solutions and bring abt/work towards changes. Huh ?
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Did your ancestors not leave their homelands to seek a better life in america ?

Same as the 18/19/early 20th C - Italian/German/Polish/Russian/Jewish /,Chinese etc.etc immigrants did, - right ?

Some people think , its MULTICULRALISM - which made America what it is (or rather was before 9/ll)

You've made a statement , which I've asked to to prove , now you ask me to disprove what you've said . ??????

Sorry I cant get my head around your twisted logic.

tatty-byeeeee..

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The 'logic' you mention goes no further than a dislike of brown people. They're a lot easier to spot than an Italian or a Pole.

 

And whites don't? What are the percentages of mixed marriages in the USA compared to all white marriages?