Who's the real terrorist?

in america its called congress

 

Seems to me that anyone who commits terror is a real terrorist. I do believe, though, that the US outdoes all others combined.

 

Who blows up civilians with suicide bombs? Muslims?
Who purposely flew passenger airliners into large, crowded buildings? Muslims?
Who murders their allies in Afganistan? Muslims?
Who beheads people for such "crimes" as apostasy, adultery, sodomy and drug trafficking? Muslims?
Who starts murderous riots over the drawing of a cartoon or the burning of a religious book? Muslims?
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I"m not talking about slang languages !!
I'm talking about the formal Arabic language which is the language of the holly Qur'an and Hadeth, so have a visit to Google translate and search about the meanings of " عبد " " أسود " "slave " " black "

 

look friend , you're making a big mistakes now .
First, you're cutting verses from its content, so you're demonizing the meaning .
you're just acting like that guy in this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WeikXpNe4es

second, most of verses are talking about the fighters who fights Muslims and their religion, and the most remarkable verse in that topic is " Allah forbids you not, respecting those who have not fought against you on account of your religion, and who have not driven you forth from your homes, that you be kind to them and act equitably towards them; surely Allah loves those who are equitable. Allah only forbids you, respecting those who have fought against you on account of your religion, and have driven you out of your homes, and have helped others in driving you out, that you make friends of them, and whosoever makes friends of them — it is these that are the transgressors. "

Third, holly Qur'an didn't come for once just like Gospel, it was coming separately according to events and occasions, so a lot of fight verses are talking about specific battles that happened in the age of prophet .

Fourth, you can't just depend on this poor translation to understand holly Qur'an, here's an agnostic Jewish researcher are talking about her experience with holly Qur'an https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAD63nLC4xc

Fifth, there are texts in each books which talk about fight and war , but there are also texts about peace and forgiveness, so we have to make a balance when we judge .

Finally, I think that you have never read the Qur'an , haven't you ?

 

yes, they are .

 

Evidence ? Examples ? And HOW do you define, when you use the term "the US" ???? What people are you talking about ? Specifically who are the terrorists, you speak of ????

 

huh, I really wanted to make response for this, but your participation looks like deaths newspaper ! and you used too much idioms so I couldn't understand every thing

It's important to say that I refuse killing innocent people whatever the doer, but is this correct numbers ? I am not sure about that .
about 11th of sep, who was the doer ? was it Alqaeda or CIA ? there's an arguments about this .

I said before that I don't know a lot about your history, but according to my information that Japanese attacked a military battleship. Do this justify attacking civilized cities and killing hundreds of thousands of people ! It will be a shame on US whatever the Justifications are .

 

1. LOL. Another of the typical Islamapologist talking point techniques. Now we have the so common OUT OF CONTEXT defense. Seen it 5000 times. You're talking to an experienced protectionist. You're not going to get by with the usual Islamapologist BS. None of the Koran suras I cited are out of context. Koran verses are not written contextually. The subject matters ramble randomly. Example: Suras 4:33 and 4:35 do not address the subject of wife-beating (the subject of 4:34). Another nice try (if you weren't talking to an experienced protectionist).

2. NO, the verses are NOT talking about Muslims fighting other Muslims. You speak[BFALSE[/B] words. Read the WORDS in the suras. "Infidels". "Idolators." "Unbelievers." ALL talking about NON-Muslims. Your credibility is sinking to the bottom.

3. I had heard that Mo the Pedophile claimed that the angel Gabriel gave him the Koran fully intact, but it really doesn't matter how the suras came about. It's what they say that matters.

4. I am not only referring to the Dawood translation. I have read 18 translations of the Koran since 1959, most recently Shakir, Arberry, Ali, Pickthall, and Dawood. On these suras cited, they all say the same.

5. There are some texts which are good. They are not the problem. The vile, sickeningly immoral (and under US laws totally ILLEGAL) suras are the problem. If you read the US Constitution, you don't find things like wife-beating, murder, assault & battery, , slavery, discriminination agains t women, pedophilia, rape, animal cruelty/killing, torture/mutilation, etc. being advocated, as there all are in the Koran.

Finally, YOU KNOW I've read the Koran, and lying is part of your Islamic ideology (taqiyya). That's part of why you have little or no credibility here (or anywhere in America)

Want to be free of all these criticisms ? Change the Koran. As long as you ludicrously try to defend it, you will NEVER gain acceptance in the USA.

 

No it is only an act of terror if the act is designed to instill fear or cower a population. Walking into a crowded bar and letting off a bomb is an act of terror. Planting a bomb in the road with the desire to blow a military vehicle is not.

 

Ridiculous. Al Qaeda attacked on 9/11 just like they attacked the USS Cole, Fort Hood with Major Nidal Hasan, the African embassies, and many other attacks. And if anybody ever had a humungous ass-kicking coming to them it was the Japs in World War II. They killed almost 3000 people at Pearl Harbor, and that was just a relatively small part of it.

Japanese war crimes occurred in China, Korea, the Philippines, Malaysia, Singapore, the Dutch East Indies (now Indonesia) and other Asian countries during the period of Japanese imperialism, primarily during the Second Sino-Japanese War and World War II. Some of the incidents have also been described as an Asian Holocaust and Japanese war atrocities.

Historians and governments of some countries hold Japanese military forces, namely the Imperial Japanese Army, the Imperial Japanese Navy and the Imperial Japanese family, especially Emperor Hirohito, responsible for killings and other crimes committed against millions of civilians and prisoners of war.

http://www.archives.gov/iwg/japanese-war-crimes/

http://yourarchives.nationalarchives.gov.uk/index.php?title=Japanese_War_Criminals_World_War_Two

http://www.gwu.edu/~memory/research/bibliography/warcrimes.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_war_crimes

 

So this is a "hate whitey" thread?

Oh, and where do you get 100million and 50 million native Americans killed from? In the US there are 300 million people and that is with a much better health care system. There is no way that many native Americans were ever alive at one time.

Also, its good of you to over look that fact that times change and anyone can become a terrorist.

Here is a question, who ran through north Africa killing and raping everyone they came in contact with and then moved through Spain and tried to go through Fance? Oh, they were Muslims. Dont try to justify one groups actions by calling out another group, no one is perfect.

 

Then you need to START talking about slang languages. Whatever language the people are SPEAKING, that is the language of those people, and in the Islamic world hundreds of millions of Muslims use the word abed (or abeed), just like the Muslim kids who beat Francis Bok with sticks they picked up off the ground when he was kidnapped by Arab Muslims from North Sudan and brought to their farm to be a slave there.

HERE's your Google searches:


http://www.topix.com/forum/world/som...EDPC9FFE65DD79

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_Bok

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abeed

 

So, you've read 18 versions, huh?

So what does verse 84 of Sura 2 mean to you?