Liberals Love Trump's Tax Plan... When Told It's Bernie Sanders' Plan

Come on. If they are illegal, there are not records. Why would businesses bother to pay their taxes? The only taxes they pay are sales taxes. Most employers have a separate bank account and allow a certain amount to be spent by only placing a certain amount in the account. The accounts are in the employer's name. No one knows for certain. Besides, those illegals are offered a rental space in a house owned by the employer who deducts the cost of housing, food and clothing from deposits. Deposits are used sparingly, at small out of the way stores for "groceries". These are usually mostly prepared meals.

Illegals only benefit businesses. That's it.

If businesses can't afford to pay, they should get out of business, since they aren't skilled, but simply users and abusers.

 

I see you've never been in a college. What you say is entirely incorrect. Entirely. You object that the big cities like LA are hotbeds of liberal thinking. Well the fact is that when you get a college degree, you seek out the better-paying jobs that utilize your degree, and you don't find those jobs in Sundance Wyoming or Jackson's Hole or East Douglas Massachusetts or in rural agricultural counties. You find them in the big cities mostly and that is where you go for them. Hence, college-educated people are concentrated in those big cities and not in rural New Mexico or in the Louisiana bayous.

Secondly, if you look at the distribution of red/blue voting areas and states on a red/blue map, you see that where education rates are high is where you find more blue, and the poor, uneducated states are where you find more red. Education tends to produce blue, and people who are intelligent and have potential for succeeding in college tend to get higher education. Entrance exams assure this.

"Higher education prodices(sic) more liberals" you say. So your objection really is that you oppose education. You prefer to keep people ignorant so they will succumb to the right wing crap. What a genius.

 

The guy in the video talks about only 3 aspects of the plan. The first two being increasing the child tax credit and lowering the corporate tax rate; both of which I happen to agree with.

Repealing the estate tax I disagree with.

But he leaves out the biggest part of the tax cut - which after all exemptions/deductions are calculated, represents a 8.5% savings for the top 1%; he doesn’t talk about the seven trillion it adds to the debt over the next ten years, he doesn’t talk about removing the exemption for each child.

Granted, if these college kids knew anything about politics, they’d know Bernie isn’t looking to cut the corporate tax or the estate tax.

But still; the guy picked three details out of a major reform that have broad support; didn’t talk about the favoritism to the wealthy or the ballooning of the debt, which are the two major criticisms of this policy.

Every time the GOP gets control they balloon the national debt with massive tax cuts that are unpaid for and say don’t worry “Reaganomics says we’ll grow ourselves enough to pay for it” and every single time three things happen; the rich get richer, the debt balloons and everyone else stays exactly where they were.

 

And this is a bad thing in your mind?

 

Well, you just hit upon the main point of the OP: They're so in love with Bernie that you could tell them about the Sanders Immigration Reform Act, part of which involves building a wall between us and Mexico, and the kids would overwhelmingly approve it. Meanwhile these kids walk about thinking they're twice as smart as they really are.

 

I agree that the kids in these videos are uninformed. Like I said; cutting the corporate rate and eliminating the estate tax are clearly not Bernie positions.

I also think the guy asking the questions avoided the parts of the plan, other than repealing the estate tax, that most liberals dislike - the massive tax breaks for the top 1%.

 

Yes whatever you do, don't trust your lying eyes and ears!

 

I concede that college grads are (usually) not stupid

Some who go into the hard sciences and engineers are very intelligent

But of the rest many are just good at reading and regurgitating but have never had an original thought in their lives

and probably never will

In college they are sponges for liberal blarney

 

It is

Because we cannot afford it and because it encourages personal irresponsibility and dependence

 

It is

Because we cannot afford it and because it encourages personal irresponsibility and dependence

 

If only he could think, and I am from the right.

 

if the republicans don't pass tax cuts for the rich to create living wage jobs, it will be the end of their party.

welfare Trumps minimum wage.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/will-c...if-we-dont-were-dead-says-sen-lindsey-graham/

 

I hope mcconnell has woken up to the fact that doing nothing is going go cost him his job

But we will see

 

What does that say about the "cream" of the RP - the "right" that Trump beat with ease?

 

It says nothing. He didn't beat 'us', since I know many true Republicans who voted for him and recognize that they made a horrible mistake.

 

Guess what my first major was.
College students are required to do more than regurgitate. They must think for themselves and write well-supported papers on their thoughts on subjects. It sounds more like it is you who is regurgitating thoughts..... -thoughts of right wing websites. Do you think William F. Buckley, Jr. or Thomas Friedman would agree with you?

 

We faced an economic slowdown and recession and the Democrat failed to instituted policies to help mitigate the damage and get us into a full recovery, what they did failed and then they basically gave up. Why are you trying to blame the Democrats actions on the Republicans.

 

Why do you state that as a given? How much debt was added when Gingrich and Kasich cut tax rates? OH that's right we had surplus budgets. How much debt did the Bush tax rate cuts add, oh that's right we had record tax revenue increases and budgets heading toward surplus again.

 

I know where you are coming from. You are a 20th century liberal, as am I and many others here. The mistake is framing the problem as though libralism is static and only seen among Democrats. Many former Dems have turned their backs on the Party yet remain just as liberal. Proof of that can be seen in the upheaval of the Republicans, confused by all the new ideas pouring into their constituencies.

Just now, I see a gret deal more tolerance and consideration from Trump (yes!) than I do from the MSM. You may wish to distance yourself from the public face of Democrats today, and I would not blame you. The face they show is not tolerant, is not accepting of freedom of thought, freedom of vocabulary, of critical thinking, of individualism -- and most especially is extreemly authoritarian. That authoritarianism has already lead to violent actions. It is the way with all left leaners - the history of Cuba, Venezuela, Russia, China and many others is about to play out right here.

 

KODE! have you not been reading about Mark Zuckerberg's push for universal income? It's all over, please dig it up yourself. The only reason for not knowing is a lack of curiosity. If you can find a qualifier, please link it yourself.

 

Seems like something or someone is also programming a whole lot of people to defend whatever idiotic thing Trump says or does too. There are armies of idiots that have been programmed as such right here on political forum..

 

They're not to bright. If they pay an illegal under the table, they aren't paying taxes or reporting it.

 

They set themselves up as general contractors. The employees sign a contract they know nothing about. The employer pays what he owes.

 

It is no big secret that the average voter is pathetically uninformed and ignorant.

 

First time US cut taxes during a war. And it was a two front war in the Middle East that required nation building.

Tell me again why it was a good idea?