Why do Repubs keep repeating the "open borders" lie?

Reagan did try enforcing the IRCA by putting Harold Ezell in charge of enforcing the law.

 

His facts are accurate.

The ONLY real reason there is a problem with illegals is that they put downward pressure on wages.

And THAT has more to do with unscrupulous employers that hire them

 

Really?

I guess he didn't do such a great job of enforcing the HIRING laws then huh?

 

Democrats for open borders.
For years, Democrats tried to portray themselves as tough on border security, even as they argued for amnesty for all illegal immigrants currently in the country. Sometimes they slipped, as Hillary Clinton did when, in a paid speech in 2013, she talked about her dream of open borders. (She quickly tried to explain away her comment, once it surfaced, as having to do with energy.)

But several events over the past few days have blown the party's cover on illegal immigration.

https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/illegal-immigration-democrats-open-borders/



Also, you get the feeling that Qiu missed it when the Democratic National Committee’s deputy chairman Keith Ellison, who has represented Minnesota’s 5th District in the House of Representatives since 2007, was photographed recently wearing a shirt that says in Spanish, “I don’t believe in borders.”






Because they don’t recognize that border. They don’t think the U.S. Has a right to defend it. They view American nationalism as racist and imperialistic.

Nancy Pelosi made this clear with two statements on the border yesterday:

“We are all Americans — north and south in this hemisphere”

And, most disturbingly for anyone who respects out borders and the rule of law:

“This is a community, with a border going through it.”

 

I read the article..it doesn't explain how abolishing ice doesnt correlate to decreased border security...your precious democrats could have had their daca people they care so much about on a path to citizenship in exchange for wall funding but they refused?...why? Because they eant open borders..their policies are so crappy that they have to look for non citizens to support their wacko ideas

 

That why Jerry Brown imposed AB 450, the immigrant worker protection act? Unscrupulous employers? Compliments SB 54 nicely. Once Brown extends health care to illegals those "surplus contributions" will really stack up. Kode has no facts, and facts aren't even what he's selling.

 

You do know that Arizona passed a law punishing employers who knowingly hire illegals and required them to use E-verify. Obama sued Arizona to stop it. It went all the way to the USSC and Arizona won. But every Liberal judge on the USSC who voted, voted against Arizona. One reason I don't want a Liberal dominated USSC.

 

Is there anything you can discuss honestly? There is no policy on the left for open borders. NONE. It's about regulated immigration under the law. So you can stop the strawman objection to "open borders" now. Also, I clearly specified IMMIGRANTS. So pivoting now to "reliable facts on undocumented persons or those with stolen or fictitious identities" is disingenuous at best. I was also the one who for years has stood opposed to a free flow of undocumented illegal aliens coming in and taking jobs illegally provided by greedy employers.

Now then, I'll just sit back and wait for you to post something true and honest about this conversation.

 

Laws don't exist. Who's Jerry Brown? What's a sanctuary? Pray ... let them all in!

 

I'm sure a bill like that would get bipartisan support in the Congress, except it's all contingent on amnesty for millions of illegals. How about we drop all of that amnesty stuff and just go with these border security options you've highlighted. Are you still in?

 

The Democrat rhetoric shows their zeal for open borders. Democrat Candidates have been told to steer clear of the immigration problem. Trump has been compared to Hitler over immigration. ICE has been called Nazis and ex CIA director Hayden likened the temporary separation of adults and children to the genocide of the Holocaust so that anyone crossing illegally the the equivalent of a Holocaust victim. To them ICE is fascist and illegals are martyrs. And let's not forget the infamous sanctuary cities...Chuck the Schmuck Schumer rejected addressing the crisis in Congress unless he got his way(did anyone tell him that his party LOST?) He also rejected the wall. He's so busy trying to stick it to Trump that he doesn't care about his own country and the welfare of its people. Get over your anger and start working for the Citizens. Shame on him and the Democrats...

 

Describe, characterize; tomato, tomäto. As you now characterize it (different from earlier, btw) there is possibly justification for refugee status and asylum.
Why are the current invasion of "model citizens" waving the flags of their countries, singing their national anthem, and shouting vile things about America as they desperately try to get into America?
You have the one-party-rule agenda backwards, not surprisingly. It is the Democrats who strive and think they deserve single party rule, and bolster their efforts by importing as many future voters, legal or not, assimilated or not, into our country. They much prefer their sole rule over a failed state than a two party government in a successful state.

 

Granted there are women and children in the march, but a scan of photos looks like 80-85% are young men.
They are marching here with the deliberate intent to break our laws if that is what it takes to get in.

 

But............that isn't a compromise, is it. How about we go with border security and this...........

PATH TO CITIZENSHIP

—The estimated 11 million people living in the U.S. illegally could obtain "registered provisional immigrant status" six months after enactment of the bill as long as:

(1) The Homeland Security Department has developed border security and fencing plans, per the specifications set out in the bill.

(2) They arrived in the U.S. prior to Dec. 31, 2011, and maintained continuous physical presence since then.

(3) They do not have a felony conviction or three or more misdemeanors.

(4) They pay a $500 fine.

—People in provisional legal status could work and travel in the U.S. but would not be eligible for most federal benefits, including health care and welfare.

—The provisional legal status lasts six years and is renewable for another six years for $500.

—People deported for noncriminal reasons can apply to re-enter in provisional status if they have a spouse or child who is a U.S. citizen or permanent resident, or if they had been brought to the U.S. as a child.

—After 10 years in provisional status, immigrants can seek a green card and lawful permanent resident status if they are current on their taxes and pay a $1,000 fine, have maintained continuous physical presence in the U.S., meet work requirements and learn English. Also the border triggers must have been met, and all people waiting to immigrate through the legal system as of the date of enactment of the legislation must have been dealt with.

—People brought to the country as youths would be able to get green cards in five years, and citizenship immediately thereafter.

........................are you still in?

 

I post this despite knowing there is no convincing the thoroughly brainwashed.

Why this mom was hanging on a ladder under a bridge between Guatemala and Mexico

"We did not come to rob or kill anyone," Guillermo says. "All we want to do is work and start a new life."

https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/22/americas/mexico-migrant-family-crosses-river-weir/index.html

 

Prove it.









Criminal conviction rates in Texas for illegal immigrants in 2015 was less than 1% and lower than that of native-born Texans.
https://www.cato.org/publications/i...f/criminal-immigrants-texas-illegal-immigrant

 

You need to post your source. It can only be some lying extreme right wing BS site.

REPUBLICAN TRICKS

Gerrymandering

Voter suppression:

• exact match signature requirements
• matching names in two different locations, often different STATES
• refusal to count provisional ballots
• moving polling locations at the last minute
• announcing false voting date AFTER the real one
• inadequate voting machines and locations for large populations of minorities and democrats leading to hours-long waits in lines
• invitation to Russia to influence voting
• lack of paper trail to prove honest counting
• etc.

ALL are only Republican tricks and cheats. They seem to know they could not win a fair election.

 

No I'm not in!

You guys keep claiming you're not for open borders but you've admittedly put border security as a contingent on letting illegal aliens become legal and eventually citizens. Why would you want to legalize criminals?

I will grant one piece of cleverness in your proposal however, having a cut off of people being in the country before Dec. 31, 2011 (which I think was the same cut off as in S 744). Here you are saying that you only support open borders for people who got in the country before 2012. However Reagan's amnesty bill had a similar cut off. Now we're talking 30 years later and there is a new cut off? In other words, the cut off is only good until the next one.

Yes Virginia, it's de facto open borders.

 

That's one; only 4999 to go.

 

It is Trump making thise lies not the basic Republicans.

 

You realize, I assume, that illegal immigrants and legal immigrants consist of a small percentage of the population.

 

You inadvertently forgot racist.

The few that matter at all you must have gotten from some fake news left wing BS site. Even so none come close to the attempted overthrow of a Republican president, the refusal (to this date) of the Democrat candidate to concede, and the Democrat administration's use of federal law enforcement, intelligence, and covert spy agencies to support the Democrat candidate and cripple the Republican candidate. That clearly shows a party that is willing to do anything to gain sole power.

 

The details of the path to citizenship I posted were from the immigration reform bill that passed in the Senate with a bi-partisan majority in 2013 (not my clever proposal), so the cut off date would need to be updated. A bill written by the "Gang of Eight," 4 senators from each party representing what was and is the view of the majority of Americans.


“The bipartisan bill that passed today was a compromise,” Obama said. “By definition, nobody got everything they wanted. Not Democrats. Not Republicans. Not me. But the Senate bill is consistent with the key principles for commonsense reform that I – and many others – have repeatedly laid out.”

He called on the House to act and emphasized to supporters that the fight is not over. “Now is the time when opponents will try their hardest to pull this bipartisan effort apart so they can stop commonsense reform from becoming a reality. We cannot let that happen,” Obama said.

The Gang of Eight bill would essentially revamp every corner of U.S. immigration law, establishing a 13-year pathway to citizenship for millions of undocumented immigrants, with several security benchmarks that have to be met before they can obtain a green card. The measure would not only increases security along the border, but requires a mandatory workplace verification system for employers, trying to ensure no jobs are given to immigrants who are not authorized to work in the United States."

https://www.politico.com/story/2013/06/immigration-bill-2013-senate-passes-093530

Unfortunately, today's GOP is lead by a narrow minded nitwit who views compromise as weakness. He governs with one constituency in mind, the minority of the public who supports him.

Fox News Poll: 83 percent support pathway to citizenship for illegal immigrants

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fo...pathway-to-citizenship-for-illegal-immigrants

 

My suggestion is that bleeding heart libs take a road trip and inspect the conditions at ground zero. Jump on a flight to San Fran and thumb your way down Pacific Coast Highway. Work your way through the mazes of homeless encampments, be careful to aviod the feces and hypos ... be sure not to stray onto MS-13 turf, and be sure to get vaccinated for typhus. Once you reach San Diego, welcome the penniless orphans and escort them to the barbaric family detention centers that CA's homeless can only fantasize about. Explain to those folks sleeping on sidewalks and in cars, why voting democrat is the right thing to do. It's beyond shameless what democrats do to people they represent. More disgusting human beings you'll never encounter. Conservatives lack compassion? When I think of all the billion$ each year that "bible thumpers" VOLUNTARILY donate to global charities ... all I can do is shake my head.

 

Because this is how the Repubs stay in power. Lying and cheating. Its the only way they can win.