Naval Sea Battle In Azov Sea - Russia captured 3 Ukrainian Ships

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I am 1/2 Ukrainian. I rate your claim, false.

 

I never said 3 million, but I did say 2 million. Anyway according to Wikipedia anywhere from 1 to 2 million Ukrainians are working in Poland. In Russia it's about 4 million.

 

Mandelus has a Polish wife and follows the corporate owned propaganda sheets - which accounts for his views.

 

You said refugees, 2-3 million.....so you did say .and im sure you remember.....provide sources for those refugees...please and thank you!

 

Zoomcopter - I read a while ago in Fort Russ that Poroshenko has no chance of winning the election, and the only thing that will keep him in office was to start some incident so as to declare Marshall law. Well isn't that what Poroshenko just did?

 

This is from Wikipedia:

Look I'm not always accurate, but neither are statistics, so are you sure I said 3 million and not 2 million?

On 14 September 2018, 33,624 Ukrainian citizens possessed a permanent residence permit, and 132,099 had a temporary residence permit.[3] Between 1 and 2 million Ukrainian citizens are working in Poland.​

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainians_in_Poland


Anyway things are confusing at times.. In Fort Russ it originally said that Russia called for the Security Council meeting. Now I read in Fort Russ that the US and not Russia called for the meeting. - and yet in another paper is said it was Russia and Ukraine that called for it. Anyway it was declined by most of the members - but there is no mention of who voted against it and which nations didn't.

Anyway the situation is serious. 500 Russian planes are now deployed along Ukraine's border. So tell me, do you really want a war to please Washington and Nato?

 

Hmmm... I didn't know I was a viking.

 

How's that trick folding out? Let's get that one detailed first

 

I assume Jeannette is another paid Russian poster of which there are apparently several on this board?

 

Still, we neither have a clear "definition" of non-nuclear threats to see to what extend a "severe cyber attack" might be matching your alleged new rules of engagement for nuclear response, nor is there any obvious direct involvement of the US in the incident. It's the UK mentioned in the "thing" when the thing being the southfront sht.

Are you now able to get a picture or shall I just keep lowering the bar for you?

 

It's been 2 Daytons already since your first realization... helloooo...

 

Marshal law???? In response to an external threat?

Not only a thoroughly corrupt and incompetent regime living off the western largess for the sole purpose of screwing with Russia's borders but now moving towards totalitarianism as well.

13 billion in low interest loans and at least 12 billion in euros direct aid to Ukraine yet the pensioners and school-children of Greece get Austerity.

Now escalate the war to bring more western interference...........an old trick.

 

5 million Ukrainians work only in Serbia I heard... Weird...

 

Seems telling people to STFU and calling them names in some Puerile boot camp Code
is not enough for this talking head, but it seems to be the best he can do. - Poor Devil

And we take note how Zoomy thinks this sort of sloped forehead psychopathy, is cute

Well you know that you have em on the ropes when your opponent resorts to Ad Hominem
.....and then further reduces and damages his.case and credibility by talking to himself and
....................actually answering, and then songs on about Schizophrenic Conversations
.............................................................................................................- Poor Devil

Well - seems we have this fish in the boat
- But look at that ! - He's still flip flopping about !

 

The reality of the situation ought to be clear by now:

 

Cancel the op... I repeat... Cancel the op... we got blown... over... pp-phhhh...

 

Good copy...
He's so smart he got it all figured out... pp-phhhh... Even the Staind song... Trouble is this Alien... over... pp-phhhh...

 

No "assuming"....a paid trolls yet of the delusional kind.

Maybe the account is collecting air miles, or something like that.

 

So reading up on the actual cause of this, it appears both the Russians and Ukranians can block access to the sea. Of course 2 major ports for Ukraine are in the area, so its economic warfare.

I mean its not like Ukraine was deliberately targeted by economic warfare in the past by Russia. Oh wait, thats right, they killed off millions of people just before WWII and wondered why people might not have liked the Soviets/Russians.


Oh and for those who are on the whole SADM kick. Sorry that makes way less sense then false flagging an attack by Islamists or Russians on the bridge using conventional weapons. I mean honestly I'd just frame some alcoholic Russian captain in a container ship full of explosive material myself.

But good job those of you who get your payments in rubles, but I'd make sure to convert them to something like gold or other hard assets.

 

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Oh, I thought you were a Turk, and then an Albanian. So now it's a Russian. Interesting!

I have news for you, the Azov Sea is very shallow, so there are no major ports in the area - except maybe in the propaganda networks..

Can I ask you something? Why is it that the Bandera followers of West Ukraine keep mentioning the holodymir, when they're killing off the same people today? I should think they'd be happy that Khruschev helped them in their ethnic cleansing of the Russians through starvation, in the same way the Nazis helped them bludgeon and kill the Poles and Jews.[/QUOTE]

 

Im sure any ukranian folks you meet would take great exception to that statement and challenge you to fisticuffs.

 

Due to naked immoral and illegal US meddling

Russia And Ukraine Are On The Brink Of War –
And Why That Could Lead To World War 3

http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-ne...d-why-that-could-lead-to-world-war-3_11262018

From The Article:
A respected foreign journalist living in Ukraine is warning that a war that most Americans cannot
even imagine “teeters on the razor thin edge of becoming real”. When Russia opened fire on Ukrainian
Navy vessels and captured three of their ships, it made headlines all over the globe. An
emergency meeting of the UN Security Council was hastily arranged for Monday at 11 AM, and
hopefully there will be a positive outcome from that meeting. Because right now Moscow and Kiev
are on the brink of war, and once a Russian invasion happens there will be no turning back. At
that point the U.S. would have a major decision to make, and if we chose to defend Ukraine that
could mean that we would suddenly find ourselves fighting World War 3.

Most people don’t realize that this crisis has been simmering for over a week. The following is
from a U.S. News & World Report article that was posted on November 19th…

A dispute over shipping lanes is threatening to reignite the 4-year-old simmering war between
Ukraine and Russia following confrontations sparked by both sides in recent days.

Russian border guards on Monday detained Ukrainian fishing vessels in the Sea of Azov, a
strategically important body of water contained to the north by Ukraine, to the west by the
Crimean Peninsula and to the east and south by Russia. Monday’s incident came days after
Russian President Vladimir Putin slammed Kiev for detaining Russian commercial ships
also in the Azov in what he described as “a totally illegal move” and which Kremlin
officials have warned may prompt retaliation.

When you realize what has already taken place, it puts the most recent events in an entirely
different context.

The Russians blocked the Kerch Strait in retaliation for having had their own commercial vessels
detained by the Ukrainian government.


& ON - http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-ne...d-why-that-could-lead-to-world-war-3_11262018

 

Well I wouldn't go that far. Afterall they are desperate for voters. Just sayin.


Top Senate Dem: Give Ukrainian navy ‘lethal’ weapons against Russia.....


President Trump should give the Ukraine “lethal maritime equipment and weapons” in the wake of Russia’s seizure of three Ukrainian naval vessels in a key disputed shipping lane, according to the top Senate Democrat on the Foreign Relations Committee.


Yesterday’s events show that the Kremlin remains sharply intent on weakening Ukraine’s security and democratic trajectory,” New Jersey Sen. Bob Menendez said in a statement Monday. "In response, the Trump Administration must immediately increase security assistance to Ukraine, including the provision of lethal maritime equipment and weapons.”


“The Kremlin must immediately return the seized Ukrainian vessels and cease any future actions that threaten the freedom of passage through the Kerch Strait,” Menendez said. “The United States should also assist Ukraine’s efforts to improve its maritime domain awareness. NATO also has a critical role and should consider increasing exercises and its presence in the Black Sea.”


Rep. Eliot Engel, incoming chairman of the House Foreign Affairs Committee, also called for the United States to bolster military support for the Ukrainians.


“Russia continues to isolate itself and set the stage for further unnecessary loss of Ukrainian and Russian life,” the New York lawmaker said in a statement. “The United States and governments around the world must hold Russia accountable for these illegal and dangerous actions and bolster our political and defensive military support for Ukraine.” …..snip~


https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/p...against-russia