How much longer will central Antarctica save our coastal communities?

For the last several decades the colossal amount of ice being ADDED to the central region of Antarctica has saved our coastal cities and towns from the threat of rising ocean levels BUT........
how much longer will this factor prevent a serious rise in ocean levels?

Personally I am worried that the tide is turning.....
pardon the pun.....
and we could be only years away from a significant rise in ocean levels.

Thank G-d that the Israelis have invented Sorek and proved that mega-scale desalination of ocean water is economically feasible......
because every cubic meter of ocean water that is desalinated and added to a nation with lots of desert.... is great news for the Maldive Islands, New Orleans, Florida, Bangladesh, The Netherlands, the owners of the 143,000 acres by the Bay of Fundy that has been taken back from the ocean by dikes......etc., etc., etc., etc.,........

 

I am convinced that Australia is in an especially good position to do something about all this........ partly because the Australian dollar is essentially equal to the Canadian dollar..... and we Canadians, Israelis and Australians...... cannot allow the USA Petro- dollar to go into a serious devaluation as George Soros has been publicly discussing for years now.

Should Sorek 2 be in Australia or California?

https://www.technologyreview.com/s/534996/megascale-desalination/

Megascale Desalination
The world’s largest and cheapest reverse-osmosis desalination plant is up and running in Israel.


http://www.politicalforum.com/index...illion-dollar-problem.525406/#post-1068713597

One trillion dollars US would build 2000 plants of this size.....
and once they were running at full capacity could desalinate
627,000 x 2000 = 1,254,000,000 cubic meters of ocean water daily!

This actually could turn out to be A LOT LESS expensive than building
dams and levees and massive pumping stations in cities and towns that
are vulnerable to rising ocean levels.

http://www.politicalforum.com/index...change-is-real.503883/page-15#post-1067789386

 

Here is a similar quotation on this topic from Graham Hancock.

Here is a link where most of the article that I quote in the opening post can be read:

HAB Theory and getting Conservatives to take climate change seriously.

Tape a weight to one end of a light plastic ball.......
Throw it in the air... what does it do?

It will wobble.

We may also soon have to start harvesting ice off Antarctica just to delay that orbital wobbling effect.

Theoretically.... we humans could accomplish something just that huge:
http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/was-moses-moshe-a-brilliant-economist.428423/

 

This picture is worth far, far, far, far more than merely a thousand words......
and for the record... my home is less than a hundred miles from the area that scientists are worried about.


https://www.thechronicleherald.ca/r...reaten-low-lying-isthmus-of-chignecto-247312/


High tides threaten low-lying Isthmus of Chignecto





For more information you may wish to look at posts #144 and #145 here:



Geology, physics, high tides question.

 

Why worry about things that are out of your control to do anything about?

 

Because I actually believe that these two verses in the Jewish scriptures are true........ and one way to set a positive shift in motion is to mentor a few influential people...... who in turn will mentor a few other influential people.... and voila.... over five to ten years a shift can take place.

"And the LORD came down to see the city and the tower, which the children of men builded.
And the LORD said, Behold, the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do." (Genesis 11)

Ecclesiastes 10:19 "A feast is made for laughter, and wine maketh merry: but money answereth all things. "

 

We want Antarctica to melt.

Its nourished rich and the second largest continent on the planet.

If that ice were gone we could turn it into one large farm and end world hunger.

Sorry some of our cities will flood but we can rebuild.

Hell, they are going to flood anyways when nature naturally melts Antarctica anyways.

Might as well start saving lives now.

 

Tow or push that ice down to the Gulf of Mexico. That will reduce the intensity of hurricanes.

But seriously, as long as we keep saving the polar bears, everything will be okay.

 

I struggle to understand how coastal cities are 'threatened' by rising seas at this point.

The reason I say that is because accurate measurements of sea level on the planet reveals through core samples, tide gauge readings, and, most recently, satellite measurements that over 100 years, the Global Mean Sea Level (GMSL) has risen by 4 to 8 inches (10 to 20 centimeters). Nobody ever drowned in 4 to 8 inches.

I'm MUCH more worried about what we humans are putting IN the oceans (cubic miles of trash, toxic waste, industrial pollution, etc.) than I am about the sea level rising 4 to 8 inches....

 

Old fishermen and shrimpers here, who live and die by tides and weather, say it's been a small fraction of an inch in their working lifetimes, if any.

 

Good question.......
here is the best answer that I found so far:

The amount of ice being added to the central region of Antarctica has been saving us for over a century.......
but the amount of warming occurring up in the Arctic will likely lead to a huge amount of cracking and sliding of ice off the land based Greenland Ice Pack:




AboveAlpha explained this for us......
this is probably the methane beginning to be released from the perma-frost:


Is this analysis of the probable long term effects of climate change logical?

and.....

http://www.politicalforum.com/index...change-is-real.503883/page-15#post-1067789386

A very simple and easy to understand explanation of why climate change is REAL.

 

The big question is who gets Antarctica when the ice is gone.

Its the second biggest continent on the planet and supposedly very fertile under all that ice.

 

I honestly hadn't even thought of that aspect to the whole formula...... but I am thinking that Greenland will be ice free before Antarctica is....... (unless H.A.B. Theory is correct and we soon have major magnetic polar shift #172 I think it might be...... if I remember the Immanuel Velikovsky idea correctly)?!


A carbon tax will NOT work fast enough to address WAIS collapse.

 

Thank you for that statistic. Somebody else had told me that figure and it is great to have it verified.

Now the question on my mind is...... over the last hundred years has the high tide level in the eastern Bay of Fundy risen by a factor of 10X - 15X that amount?

http://www.politicalforum.com/index...ten-cms-3-or-4-inches-could-high-tide.543690/
If average ocean levels rose by eight to ten cms (3 or 4 inches) could high tide...

... rise by one meter in the Isthmus of Chignecto in Nova Scotia, Canada?
This question is logical because the geography of Canada's Bay of Fundy produces the world's highest tides. In my part of Nova Scotia in Guysborough County there is very little funnelling of tidal waters......... so high tide is only about one to one point five meters above low tide.

In the eastern area of the Bay of Fundy high tide levels are up by ten to fifteen meters.

 

No it isn't. Even if you take its current surface area, it's only fifth (of seven) but it's an ice-covered archipelago so if the ice were to melt, it would be significantly smaller than it is no.

Even if a significant proportion the ice were to melt, it would still be a pretty inhospitable place with cold temperatures in winter and months at a time of complete darkness.

 

It's the fifth largest, and who claims that it's fertile under the ice ?

 

From the Antarctica wiki

If forests covered Antarctica it's going to be fertile land frozen in time. The existence of hydrocarbons in large quantities in the area also suggest a lot of organic matter still exists under the ice packs.

Pangaea the super continent when everything was connected and teaming with life.

 

I dunno.

But I've often mused that someday a James Bond style evil villain would nuke antarctica to flood the world. Or maybe nuke antarctica to expose atlantis and consequently flood the world.

How many nukes would it take to thaw antarctica?

 

One question are you stroking a white cat right now?

 

He's mostly white with some grey/brown patches. And hes crosseyed.

 

Oceans will rise a bit, some places will be lost. Desertification is possible in some areas although mankind will probably be able to tame most of that. Some places will open up as usable and others will have to be abandoned.

My suggestion is when buying at the coast some form of a cliff to live in is a good idea, not too close to the edge.

Don't buy in Miami, Maldives, etc.

 

The real fun will begin when rising ocean CO2 and warmth kicks off the next mass extinction event.

 

We already did that when we started on the rain forests, but it's a different kind of extinction event we're causing with global warming.

When the dinosaurs were here we were running at ~1500ppm when they became extinct and as high as 5000ppm when they first roamed the earth which is close to lethality for human beings.

C3 plants which is 75% of all plants on the planet grow up to 3 times more efficiently in 1400ppm which is there sweet spot which suggest they have a common ancestry evolved in a time when co2 was more plentiful during the days of the dinosaurs. Yields are increasing because of the increase in co2 but it's very difficult to track.

It's not all doom and gloom and end of the world stuff but we will need to adapt.

If we stop releasing co2 today levels will still rise for centuries to come if that makes you feel any better

 

That's organic matter from tens of millions of years ago. Much more likely to be fossil fuels than mulch nowadays.

 

Destroying rainforests is child's play next to an actual mass extinction event, when a majority of species on earth go extinct. Actually, we've lost a lot just in the modern age as we've exterminated and displaced innumerable different species, but that, too, pales in comparison to what the earth potentially faces in the future. It will mean the kind of ecological collapse to which there may be no adaptation. Life plays a significant role in regulating earth's climate, so if it goes, the climate will go even more haywire.