Iraq to vote on bill banning US military presence

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  1. ronv

    ronv Well-Known Member

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    They are all still using Bush's Iraq war authority.
     
  2. perotista

    perotista Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Bush's Iraq war authorization had nothing to do with Libya. Obama used a UN resolution to wage that war or our intervention along with NATO in a civil war. What Libya proves is congress won't cut off funds even in a war it didn't authorize.
     
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  3. Pro_Line_FL

    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And you think it is the duty of the US to prevent the will of the Iraqi people as far as their own country is concerned? How do you figure?
     
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    The Shia have already taken over .. We were the one's that put them in power. The bloodbath that resulted from this action has already taken place.
     
  5. Lil Mike

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    Yes and can someone explain how is it that Obama had to pull out of Iraq in 2011 because the status of forces agreement was expiring, but he put US troops back in with no status of forces agreement?

    I've been trying to figure this out for years.
     
  6. Lil Mike

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    Then how did Obama send US forces back to Iraq? Did we become occupiers?
     
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    Badaboom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Iraq as such a great track record in military adventure... They ran away from jihadis in pickup truck leaving their weapons and tanks behind the last time. You think they're up to crossing the US military again?
     
  8. Pro_Line_FL

    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No. Did you skip the history class?

    Looks like someone will be attending summer school......

     
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  9. pjohns

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    I think that you have just answered my question...
     
  10. truth and justice

    truth and justice Well-Known Member

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    So you must like the US Foreign Policy comprising terrorism, hypocrisy and war mongering

    And I see that you cliped my post "You must be so delusional to think that the Iraqi population does not hate the US" LOL. You are delusional
     
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  11. pjohns

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    Why would it be "like you"? (I heard recently that the US does not now import any oil.)

    And for the past several weeks, the price of gasoline has actually been decreasing around here. (Rather soon, it will probably increase, as there is the usual price-gouging due to summer driving.)
     
  12. notme

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    The US has a great trackrecord of running away from wars they started.
     
  13. Heartburn

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    They had it back and damn near lost the whole shebang to that ISIS bunch. Obama made a mistake when he pulled out but he made a bigger one when he didn't just stay out. "You caught it, you clean it."
     
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    Interesting that you linked the wrong Wikipedia article to that...

    But in any case, I came across no mention of a status of forces agreement. You said, "In 2011 they did the same thing, and US wanted to stay, but the problem was immunity for US troops. You can't have US troops in Iraq against the will of the host country, especially when they can be arrested and charged in Iraqi courts." So what was the agreement with the Iraqi government that provided immunity for US troops? Is that in your summer school?
     
  15. AFM

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    The war in Iraq was won by the surge strategy with help from the Sunnis in Iraq. Iraq was a safe, stable, and secure country with US forces countering the Iranian menace on the border. Obama gave this all away. He completely ignored the lessons of history in Korea, Japan, and Europe. In Korean we pulled out only to return a few years later when North Korea invaded South Korea. We came back in, won the Korean conflict, left a security force of ~ 30,000 troops, and South Korea is one of the most successful economies in the world. In Japan and Europe we did not pull out but left security forces of 30,000 and 60,00 respectively and Japan and Germany have become two of the most successful economies in the world. Iraq could have been the next South Korea. Instead they were in a practical sense taken over by Iran. ISIS formed in Syria and took control of significant territory in Iraq. We came back in without out a SOFA and defeated ISIS.

    There was no attempt by the US to take over Iraq just as history shows in the case of Europe, Japan, and South Korea.
     
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    Obama could have renegotiated the SOFA. That actually was Biden's job but that turned out to be another one of his many failures. Iraq wanted US troops to stay and Maliki could have made that happen but Obama wanted no part of it due to a campaign promise. He ignored the lessons of history making him either very stupid or very corrupt in that it contributed to concessions for the Iran Nuclear Deal Fiasco.
     
  17. flyboy56

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    Libya was a NATO operation,
     
  18. flyboy56

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    Maliki wanted the US troops to stay but not the new Iraqi parliament.
     
  19. AFM

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    Sure it was.
     
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  20. AFM

    AFM Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If Obama had wanted troops to remain they would have. All he wanted to do was pull out. He’s either dumb or corrupt.
     
  21. gnoib

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    That is truly a good one, hihihihihihihi.
     
  22. gnoib

    gnoib Well-Known Member

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    Nope, very wrong.
     
  23. gnoib

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    Ahm, Bush signed that contract with Iraq.
    The Iran nuke deal a negotiation of many states, not a US negotiation.
     
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  24. AFM

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    And Obama chose not to renegotiate it, pulled all our troops out, and gave Iraq away.

    Your last sentence is absurd. Too funny.
     
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    Look, I back up Trump a lot here, but I would not put one bit a faith in what he says regarding this. First, what was he going to say that he did want war? Hitler said did not want war with Poland either but he had evidence that those dastardly poles were up to no good, so he had to do something.
     

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