Iraq to vote on bill banning US military presence

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  1. AFM

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    Only a moron like Obama would say anything akin to ‘war is off the table’.
     
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    How many pallets of cash did those other states send?
     
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    So going to war with NATO doesn't require congress's authorization?
     
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    Advisors.
     
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    Just like those troops in South Korea, Japan, and Europe as well as the troops which Obama pulled out of Iraq thus abandoning the only muslim constitutional republic in the ME to theocracy also known as Iran.
     
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    It was a Shia country at the first election. Did that surprise anyone?
    Seems like only yesterday Iran was fighting ISIL. Hmm. maybe it was only yesterday.
     
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    They haven't so far, have they. Nor international law of the United Nations or the Geneva Convention Rules for that matter. Let us be honest for once, shall we? The U.S. is a rogue nation and that is the fact of the matter. It needs to be crushed.
     
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    An excellent start.
     
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    What does that mean ... going to war with NATO? Sever the head of the snake (the U.S.) and the job is done.
     
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    Iraq was s Constitutional Republic with representation from Shia, Sunni, Christian, Women, .... until Obama abandoned it to the controlling influence of Iran. How are the Iraqi Christians doing these days ?? Thanks Obama.
     
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    Obama led from behind, defeated Libya, and then had no plan. The Obama administration refused to admit the blunder, refused to provide adequate security at Benghazi, and four people died.
     
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    I don't think there's an exit plan for Syria that doesn't involve WWIII breaking out, with Turkey and Russia on one side and Iran on the other, with the poor people of Syria being the first victims. That Iran won't add Israel to the list of targets would probably be wishful thinking, drawing us back into it.
     
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    No one will join you.
     
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    What ought to have been done was to provide security for its' own but leave Libya alone. Khaddafi was not U.S. business.
     
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    I agree with you that Iraq like most Muslim countries used to live without sectarianism. However I do not agree with you as to who is responsible for the destruction of this. Some years ago I read about the Saud's faking being Shia and destroying Sunni mosques, murdering Sunni in order to get sectarian violence in Iraq. The Saud's are the one form of Islam which is by its very nature Sectarian and it is the one the US supports, works with and works to spread throughout the world.
     
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    When it comes to instigating and implementing war the U.S. concocts its own authorization by any means possible.
     
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    I think you will find that some in the US considered him very much their business, still not forgiving him for Pan Am flight 103. Of course first they had to make sure he had given up nukes and also come over to the US side. Gaddafi did not believe they would engage in regime change as he knew that would mean exactly what has happened in Iraq would happen. Seems the US did not mind the idea of the rise in terrorism that came with that and another failed state in the ME. The US is not stupid. Was all this meant?
     
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    There is no country in the Middle East strong enough to defeat Israel in a war. If Iran were to attempt that, using Syria as a conduit to Israel, they would be insuring their own destruction.

    What Assad wants is to regain control over Syria. The last thing he needs right now is a war with Israel. Surely, a war with Israel would mean the end of his regime in very short order.

    Syria is not our country. It is not the 51st state. Same with Iraq. ISIS has had all of its land taken away. The mission was a success. So let's bring our troops home. They have done the job that was asked of them, so bring them home.
     
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    Agreed. Plus Khaddafi made good on his weapons agreement but Obama killed him anyway. He did the same to the Ukraine.
     
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    I am sure you are right.
    Yes, it was meant.
    1. Diminish defense.
    2. Instigate national unrest.
    3. Invade.
     
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    It’s very clear that Iran destroyed the Constitutional Republic in Iraq after Obama abandoned it. The Saudi’s has nothing to do with that.
     
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    Obama was clueless on this. There was no plan. Libya is now a lawless terrorist breeder.
     
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    I see that you are comparing any ONE nation with another ONE, but you are not being honest. True, there are a number of Middle Eastern nations to chose from but Israel is not a nation unto itself. The honest way to make the statement would be; "There is no country in the Middle East strong enough to defeat the U.S. (with Israel's help) in a war
     
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    Just as Bush did to Saddam Hussein.

    This should be a clue to those who are bluffed over the "right! left!" "Democrat! Republican!" charade.
     
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    We won the war and helped Iraq set up a democratic government. Iraq was safe, stable, and secure with our security force just as Europe and Japan were after WW2.

    Obama gave all this away. And had no plan for Libya.

    There is a very clear difference between Bush and Obama.
     

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