Marchers ask Trump to ‘liberate’ Hong Kong

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  1. s002wjh

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    omg stop the chest thumping and self righteous etc, don't know how real world works. ask for trump help is simply stupid, this is the potus has no issue taking away mothers from their children on immigrants. put childrens in a crowded unsanitary warehouse.
     
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    its not matter of moral, imagine, every other countries citizen just wave a US flag and get into US. I would say those illegal who escape from Honduras due to gang and corrupt politician has more asylum right then Hkonger.
     
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    are you just naïve? lol but say US grant HK asylum, next thing you know every country start waving flag and want help, you gonna grant asylum to all of them. maybe do that to Saudi 1st, wait no they got oils.
     
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    Still dont represent 7.4 Million people of Hongkong. Zero Legitimation from the people. Or do few thousand Antifa activist represent USA now?
     
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    I'd prefer a couple hundred thousand immigrant asylees from HK than a couple hundred thousand from ... certain other places.
     
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    until they start trashing subway because they couldn't live on welfare and demand universal sufferage. refugee is refugees. the illegal here at least work in farmfield, and low wage jobs that no one wanted. ask those HK youngester to work on those jobs, they gonna say you violate their human right.
     
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    No, they will work in high tech, in fashion, in restaurants. They will do very well.

    I am happy we have migrants to work in agriculture, but they should be here on H2B visas.
     
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    I do not think there is much either Trump or Obama can do or could have done. Too bad the Brits agreed to turn that great city over to the Communists. I feel bad for the citizens of Hong Kong and I am sure that we will soon be seeing many refugees over here.
     
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    But they have, at least, to try. The Extradition Bill is the red line, it's life or death of every one in HK of their liberty, freedom of speech, and religion freedom. Underneath, another problem is the economy problem for most youthful generations. They have no hope, no future, being pushed to a corner. they are angry. The PRC policies didn't benefit them at all. Now she blames the problem to foreign powers.

    I don't understand why they cry out to US, not UK. May be CIA does intervene now.
     
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    they only speak cantonese, most are kids. no one gonna hire them if they dont have college degree here. you gonna pay their 200k 4yr college too lol.
     
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    I agree with the freedom part. :)
     
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    99% didn't even read the detail of the bill. the Bill clearly indicate, for the extradition to work, it has to have same law in HK, + its case by case, meaning, a independent judge will decide to extradited or not. it started when a guy kill his pregnant GF in taiwan, but run back to HK. The murder goes free cause there aren't extradition bill between HK and taiwan. HK can't charge the guy for murder cause the crime was commited in taiwan.

    economy is mainly due to fact the company move to mainland, HK traditional was gateway to china, but after WTO, most company move to shanhai and other place in china.
     
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    So truth. But the PRC and mainland Chinese don't understand it. They think the Hong Kongers are unpatriots.
     
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    if some american wave russia/china flag in dc, you think majority of american gonna say they are patriots lol.
    the HK protester screw up, rather continue the peaceful protest, it become violent which many HKonger against it, cause it affect their daily live and cities economy. if they wave HK flag, they might actually get support from mainland chinese, which is really what CCP afraid of. but they play right into CCP hands, and china just need to wait and watch them destroy themself along with the city.
     
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    People are afraid the PRC will use this Bill as excuse to extradite anyone who don't tow the line of the party in any circumstances. Especially when people say or express something the PRC doesn't like. People just don't trust the PRC.
     
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    yes i understand that, but they didn't bother to read the bill, the situation become overblown. beside if china want someone from HK, they just grab them using their spies, they did it with several book writer that make fun of Xi. HK is fully infiltrated by chinese MSS( china version of CIA), same with taiwan.
     
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    That's truth about the flag, lol. Pretty good point. I don't understand why they wave america flags either, I against the violence too. Once they do that they are losing my support.

    Something wrong about them.
     
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    China is an evil militaristic totalitarian state. The rest of the world has become very afraid of China, and will isolate China economically if there is a bloodbath in Hong Kong.

    That would be a smart move. The West should never have started financing the Chinese war machine and should stop doing it now. Better late than too late.
     
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    The bill will eventually give the PRC open license to do that,right now PRC can only do it secretly and in restrain, the bill will make HK like mainland China in the future. Which HKers are afraid of.
     
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    china is not gonna intervene in HK, they gonna watch these naive protester destroy them self and the cities, and get all the company move to other place in china. They already said they gonna change Law in Shenzhen for better business environment, which is next to HK. rather getting support from other HKonger and mainland chinese the protester alienated them.
     
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    maybe, but so far i haven't seen mainland directly change HK law or anything like that. The HK will become mainland in 2047 anyway, ppl live there should just migrant to other place. China is not gonna give in to their demand of free election. The only way they can achieve that is if there is a civil war in mainland or mainlander demand more freedom and they can ride the wave to get their.
     
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    you keep saying the Hkers don't read the bill, but what's the point when the mainland polices interpret the bill anyway they want and violate the laws? What's the point to read it, when you know it most likely to be violated later.
     
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    They're SOL because some idiot or idiots, who probably cared not at all, agreed to set Hong Kong up in a 100 year steel trap.
     
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    ok which law did mainland change it since 97? i dont know if they gonna change in the future or not, but i'm looking at the past change in order to know if they will change it. why would they need to change it, if the contract expire in 2047 anyway. its the same reason they never invade HK, time is on their side.
     
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    This is a sad statement. I hope the different will happen.
     

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