Trump ordered US drone strike that killed Iran general Qassem Suleimani

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  1. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If you are helping one side in a war kill soldiers of the other side - you are allied - be it stated or unstated.
     
  2. AFM

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    No dodge. Your lack of argument substantiated my point.
     
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    And again. Nothing but insults.
     
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    I asked you 2 very short and simple questions. You answered neither. That's a dodge.
     
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    I’ve explained it all before to you in detail.
     
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    I answered your questions.
     
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    Lol seriously they want us out of Iraq. They embraced us under Obama now they say once again death to America. You do realize a lot of Iraqis still don’t have power and running water. They feel they were better under a dictatorship. ISIS wasn’t formed because of Obama isis was formed from hatred of the West putting their bombs and tanks where they don’t belong. And in Iraq what did we win?
     
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    No you didn't - all you have done is repeat your claim.

    How did pulling the absence of Troops in Iraq - cause the rise of ISIS in Syria ?
     
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    Not on this forum you didn't. Perhaps in your somewhat tortured mind you did, but that's another issue.

    How is Iraq able to be "given away" by POTUS? Where in the Constitution does it say POTUS has the power to "give away" foreign countries?
     
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    Now imagine how you would be taken if you said the things that are said about what happens to homosexuals in Iran to people who actually know -- and aren't trying to spin propaganda!! Iran, in case you are actually fooled by ridiculous propaganda to the contrary, while Iran has laws on the books that make sodomy punishable, those laws are unenforceable due to other provisions. And no one is punished for homosexuality or sodomy in Iran. In fact, hundreds of thousands of people (many who aren't homosexual) used to claim an exemption from compulsary military service, claiming to be homosexuals, causing a huge drop in the number of people enlisted in the armed forces. While Iran retained the option for homosexuals to claim the exemption, today they must prove they have engaged in homosexual conduct to be entitled to the exemption. Thousands still get the exemption and nothing happens to them for making the claim, even if homosexual rights groups complain about the invasion of their privacy because of the intrusive questions. At the same time, polls taken of young people in Iran show a huge number (17%) claim to be homosexual, when you wouldn't expect more than 2-4% of the population to be homosexual, one suspects because around that number have considered or used the homosexual exemption from military service option.

    In Iran, sometimes people facing a capital case for murder or kidnapping etc, you find one of the tactics used by certain defense lawyers in Iran connected to western "human rights groups" is to claim they are homosexual to bring about the kind of pressures on the judiciary in Iran to help their client's case. Otherwise, even if someone admits to sodomy (homosexuality is not a crime), that is not enough to find them guilty. They will need to confess 4 times, the evidence must support the confession, and that evidence needs to have 4 witnesses to the act of sodomy. Otherwise, if there are fewer witnesses than is required, and if the witnesses don't offer the exact same testimony, the person who has accused someone of sodomy (and those who have testified) would all receive rather harsh sentences. Put succinctly, no one in Iran can be punished for sodomy or homosexuality and Iran's policy is to avoid confronting the issue, with the laws on the book on the subject treated only as a statement of "morality" and not something to be enforced.

    Anyway, those who want to wage war on Iran aren't going to be interested in the actual facts on any of these subjects, so better for you to imagine I am 'evading' the falsehoods you and others are prone to repeat.
     
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    Better late than never.
     
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    Am amerikanischen Wesen soll die Welt genesen.
     
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    If only 80+ million Iranians could be more like us.
     
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    Executing terrorists is not murder. We already had an enormous amount of people willing to engage in terrorism against us. New ones will have to get in line and we'll kill them in the order they arrived. Hell ain't half full.
     
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    Such a stupid narrative, considering that the "Iranian list" had defeated the "US list" in successive Iraqi elections during the time of the US occupation of Iraq. Indeed, the US had to leave Iraq because even its own handpicked prime minister (installed to replace Jaffari because the latter was seen as 'too close to Iran'), namely Nouri Al Maliki, had to switch sides and ally himself with Iran and refused to enter into SOFA with the US. He switched sides because he noticed the US was already arming Sunni jihadist and Ba'athists (Sons of Iraq) under the guise of the "surge" and what would become the rudiments of ISIS was already being formed during the Bush years as a result of the policy called the "Redirection" (shifting from supporting Shia to Sunni groups in Iraq, while working with the Saudis to create sectarian divisions elsewhere as a means to counter Iranian influence). The idea that Iraq was somehow "won" by the US before Obama is simply nonsense and you don't need to go further than reading even accounts by Bush appointees at the time who considered General Soleimani even then the most powerful figure in Iraq.
     
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    Nice revision of history.
     
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    Just reporting the facts.
     
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    Questions have been answered. Carry on.
     
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    I’ve been through this before with you and many others.
     
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    Indeed you live in a fantasy world.
     
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    You post is self contradicting.
     
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    It would appear that this was done in defense of hundreds of Americans. If you know someone is going to go on a mass-killing spree, you don't have to wait for hundreds of people to be killed and then react. Soleimani was plotting a major attack on U.S. facilities and workers in several countries. "Kill or be killed" is defensible.

    The NDAA, which continues to be extended by both parties of Congress, gives the President broad authority to act when there is an imminent threat to Americans. The United Nations is not "the boss of us".

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-iraq-security-blast-plan-idUSKBN1Z21MU
     
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