Trump passes no insurance for abortions.

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  1. quiller

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    Alive is good. Adopted is better. Loved is essential. I speak for the adoptees. The ones left alive.

    So many libs think all children will never rise above poverty. And yet, how many libs want to adopt U.S.-born children --- instead making some sort of statement and adopting a foreign-born? The one child passed over is that same surplus child you say will be created. "Adopting foreign" causes that surplus.
     
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    And where are you going to get enough people to adopt the unwanted children?

    and it has nothing to do with children “rising above poverty” but rather living in poverty

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    Tell you what

    why not pay these women living in poverty a “baby bonus” so they do not abort?
     
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    The negativity overwhelms me, how nobody answers why that surplus exists, but yet they ask what happens if nobody adopts. It does not take any real research to see the obstacles in place by what many say is an outrageously burdensome adoption process. Cutting that bureaucracy without endangering the child's well-being should greatly alleviate that surplus.
     
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    If women who do not want to ever have children ask for tax money to sterilize them, should taxes pay for it? That is also a choice, and would be taxpayer-funded just like killing a child they wouldn't want anyway.

    Consider the savings in social services complaints for adults or for the child. Consider the money saved in taxes raising that child because liberals believe she'll ALWAYS remain on welfare so they want Mom voting their way. To break free, conceive no child at all.
     
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    Have you done the math? If abortion were stopped tomorrow how many adoptive parents would be needed PER YEAR?

    Let’s round it down to half a million abortions per year - even if only half were to be adopted out that is a quarter of a million babies and children requiring adoption. PER YEAR. At present about 140,000 children are adopted each year in America - so what will you do with the excess?
     
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    Why not offer free sterilisation for men? After all it takes two to Tango


    You know I have not seen one strategy for reducing abortion suggested by you other than blame women

    What is you suggested strategy because I can tell you legislation will do diddly squat
     
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    So you want to eliminate the screening process so that pedophiles can adopt as many children as they like? :eek:
     
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    Hate to tell you but poster in question has never heard of Guttmacher ....hard to believe but that is where FACTS come from ;)
     
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    Astounding how those with ZERO subject matter knowledge are the ones who want to DENY women their rights.
     
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    It is absolute idiocy to worry about that when we have so many single mothers on welfare. Absolute idiocy. Thanks for making the world an overpopulated mess GOP!
     
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    I think I'll go with the supreme Court not insane babbling based on nothing....
     
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    Not everyone is interested in adopting. Just because you adopted multiple kids doesn’t mean everyone else should.
     
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    Why do you believe only liberals have abortions?
     
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    Or even CAN adopt

    The Coronavirus will absolutely see a rise in abortions as women will be unable to afford reliable contraception and due to the economic downturn and income uncertainty will not want to proceed with a pregnancy
     
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    Coupled with apathy toward those children who are being abused and/or neglected in homes where they were NEVER *wanted*. It's easy to stand on the sidelines and tell other people what to do with their lives, but it's harder to stand a post and do something to actually all the abused and neglected and unwanted children who are thrown into an impossibly overcrowded (and often toxic) foster care system.
     
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    You never see viable options offered either

    most focus on trying to make abortion illegal but evidence through the world has shown that legislation does diddly squat to prevent or reduce the rate of abortion. It does and will increase both infant and maternal mortality, it often increases the proportion of “late term” abortions as women struggle to find a provider, legal or illegal and it will definitely cause a rise in deaths as women will attempt “home abortions” with internet sourced mifepristone
     
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    Shh. We cannot talk about the reality of the situation. Want to join me in making some picket signs so we can stand around bashing scared women who are seeking information and abortion services in a safe, hygienic environment? I'll bring the markers. Can you pick up some poster boards?
     
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    Yep! And we can blame those women who have tragically found they are carrying a non-viable foetus and have to terminate. We can dance around and accuse all women having later term abortions of “just wanting to get rid of the baby so they can fit into a Swimsuit :roll:


    I should write a Book “The lies that anti abortionists tell and other demeaning strategies”
     
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    I wouldn't worry, democrats. The next time you have control of the white house and both chambers they will make abortion free and mandatory.
     
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    Here's some childish babbling you can put in the book :



    """I wouldn't worry, democrats. The next time you have control of the white house and both chambers they will make abortion free and mandatory."""
     
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    Did you know fertility clinics put babies in the freezer. And then they discard the babies as medical waste. What can we do to stop fertility clinics.

    THEY PUT BABIES IN THE FREEZER
     
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    Nah! They will just make vasectomies mandatory and charge men for banking sperm setting up a system where before the sleek can be withdrawn the man has to show that the woman has consented to become pregnant and that he has the financial assurance to support a child
     
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    You guys even want to make sex boring! What is it with democrats and misery?
     
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    Can you possibly come up with more farfetched distortions of what others say? These are tired.
     
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    Your uninformed grasp of the adoption process is NOT my problem.
     

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