Trump passes no insurance for abortions.

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by I justsayin, Jul 16, 2020.

  1. MJ Davies

    MJ Davies Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 4, 2020
    Messages:
    21,120
    Likes Received:
    20,249
    Trophy Points:
    113
    You certainly have enough nonsense right here in this thread. Unbelievable.
     
    Derideo_Te likes this.
  2. MJ Davies

    MJ Davies Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 4, 2020
    Messages:
    21,120
    Likes Received:
    20,249
    Trophy Points:
    113
    How is that comment a far-fetched distortions? Why do you think adoption is a long, long process?
     
    Derideo_Te likes this.
  3. quiller

    quiller Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 7, 2006
    Messages:
    8,579
    Likes Received:
    2,989
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    If the GOP was as heartless as liberals claim, the boxcars full of liberals would be jammed and rolling at top speed. That surely would solve the overpopulation problem. Meanwhile, our national population declines and forces businesses to use more robots which in turn replace more workers.

    So what was that about overpopulation again? Those "extra" people can be hugely productive, if they're allowed to live. Odd how the Dems don't want that.
     
  4. MJ Davies

    MJ Davies Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 4, 2020
    Messages:
    21,120
    Likes Received:
    20,249
    Trophy Points:
    113
    You think not aborting babies will bring back industry in America? Am I understanding your point correctly?
     
  5. quiller

    quiller Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 7, 2006
    Messages:
    8,579
    Likes Received:
    2,989
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    You make a valid point about wrongly blaming someone with a non-viable baby and has to terminate. With no attempt at snark whatsoever here...if it's dead, it's not an abortion but a janitorial process. Any other "nonviable" would probably be judgemental, such as whether to keep Downs Syndrome or other obvious-to-spot handicaps.

    I have never once accused any woman of the swimsuit scenario. Sorry. Aim elsewhere.
     
  6. quiller

    quiller Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 7, 2006
    Messages:
    8,579
    Likes Received:
    2,989
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    No. I think not aborting babies will help bring back MORALITY in America. But I also treasure the elective process and a free election must be held to settle this issue once and for all.

    The U.S. live births is in decline. Robotics is meeting some of that shortfall but there will always be a need for hands-on labor. That won't happen if we keep killing the future workforce.
     
  7. quiller

    quiller Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 7, 2006
    Messages:
    8,579
    Likes Received:
    2,989
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Because after I achieved majority I tried to find out all the hoops Michigan put my adoptive parents through and it showed YEARS of efforts to finally convince the state to allow it. (No criminal records, both long-time upstanding citizens, didn't matter).

    If other states differ, then I will admit I generalized. But I don't believe I'm that far off. It's a nightmare of paperwork and in some cases open bias on the part of the social services investigator who may object to political or religious affiliations but doesn't say that in rejecting the application. It was not uncommon in the 1920s and 1930s to do that. It's not as obvious today but still going on. Facial metal? Tattoos? DENIED!
     
  8. MJ Davies

    MJ Davies Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 4, 2020
    Messages:
    21,120
    Likes Received:
    20,249
    Trophy Points:
    113
    How will stopping abortions bring back morality? You know women have been terminating their pregnancies since the beginning of time, right? The only difference today is they can turn to a qualified medical doctor to have it done safely.

    Robotics is meeting a shortfall that was created by moving job overseas, not a dwindling workforce. It was the opposite actually. Industrialization pushed people out of jobs.
     
    Derideo_Te and Bowerbird like this.
  9. quiller

    quiller Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 7, 2006
    Messages:
    8,579
    Likes Received:
    2,989
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Your problem is not on this forum.
     
  10. quiller

    quiller Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 7, 2006
    Messages:
    8,579
    Likes Received:
    2,989
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    OK, murder is moral. There. I'm a liberal.
     
  11. MJ Davies

    MJ Davies Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 4, 2020
    Messages:
    21,120
    Likes Received:
    20,249
    Trophy Points:
    113
    The agencies have a responsibility called due diligence. Yes, your parents were vetted thoroughly to determine they were long-time upstanding non-criminal candidates. That's how the process is supposed to work.

    Do you have anything that supports a prospective adoptive parent being denied because of facial metal and/or tattoos? That seems random.
     
    Derideo_Te likes this.
  12. quiller

    quiller Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 7, 2006
    Messages:
    8,579
    Likes Received:
    2,989
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Aren't they the ones demanding the "right" to have one?
     
  13. MJ Davies

    MJ Davies Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 4, 2020
    Messages:
    21,120
    Likes Received:
    20,249
    Trophy Points:
    113
    It's the right to choose.
     
    Derideo_Te and Bowerbird like this.
  14. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2010
    Messages:
    64,064
    Likes Received:
    13,586
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Does your inane gibberish have no end ?
     
    Bowerbird likes this.
  15. Bowerbird

    Bowerbird Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 13, 2009
    Messages:
    92,812
    Likes Received:
    74,237
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    But it is a comb and frequently used blame game

    You are aware are you not that the overwhelming majority of late term abortions are for foetal abnormality incompatible with life?

    upload_2020-8-6_1-2-23.jpeg
     
    Derideo_Te likes this.
  16. quiller

    quiller Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 7, 2006
    Messages:
    8,579
    Likes Received:
    2,989
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Verbal only. Overheard between two social services types sharing a lunch. (I eavesdrop. I do it especially with two goons with open notebooks, laughing about the "duds.") My inexact recall is that one had just denied a couple for metal, tats and the sight of a bong in one of their rooms.

    Michigan is one of nine states with voter-approved legal marijuana. To my knowledge it is not illegal to get tattooed or punctured or otherwise adorned.
     
  17. quiller

    quiller Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 7, 2006
    Messages:
    8,579
    Likes Received:
    2,989
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    After you!
     
  18. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2010
    Messages:
    64,064
    Likes Received:
    13,586
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Another Gem - "Not" You can substitute GOP with the "Dems" in the above sentence with equality.

    Overpopulation is a huge problem on planet earth - What planet are you from ?
     
  19. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2010
    Messages:
    64,064
    Likes Received:
    13,586
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I am not the one making baseless and nonsensical statements - inferring that all liberals are for murder. That would be you.
     
    MJ Davies and Bowerbird like this.
  20. Bowerbird

    Bowerbird Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 13, 2009
    Messages:
    92,812
    Likes Received:
    74,237
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    And if it wasn’t there would be abuses

    No wants wants a return of the practices of “baby farming”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baby_farming
     
    Derideo_Te likes this.
  21. quiller

    quiller Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 7, 2006
    Messages:
    8,579
    Likes Received:
    2,989
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    No hostility intended here, OK. I was not.

    I did say above, Any other "nonviable" would probably be judgemental, such as whether to keep Downs Syndrome or other obvious-to-spot handicaps.
     
  22. quiller

    quiller Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 7, 2006
    Messages:
    8,579
    Likes Received:
    2,989
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    I never said all liberals are for murder, I said they are for abortion, which I believe is murder.
     
  23. MJ Davies

    MJ Davies Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 4, 2020
    Messages:
    21,120
    Likes Received:
    20,249
    Trophy Points:
    113
    OK. So you listened in on a private conversation and assume that is standard across the board?

    A person can be denied adoption (or anything) for a myriad of reasons. Those reasons don't have to be illegal.
     
    Derideo_Te likes this.
  24. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2010
    Messages:
    64,064
    Likes Received:
    13,586
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Yes you did - and you say it again in this post. Strange that you do not know what the words that come out of your mouth mean.
     
  25. quiller

    quiller Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 7, 2006
    Messages:
    8,579
    Likes Received:
    2,989
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    And I say, CHOOSE LIFE.
     

Share This Page