CNN Poll" 66% Support Cut, Cap, and Balance. 74% Support Balanced Budget Amendment

No.. that's only the broad outline! Don't you try and fool us! Dood-Frank is the Obamacare equivalent of the Financial World. It gives the US Government HUGE new intrusive powers and it appoints thousands of bureaucrats, IRS agents and million other little bureaucratic parasites to suck off the last juices of this nations economic prosperity.

It's appoints Government Apparatchiks huge swaths of regulatory power with no Congressional Oversight whatsoever, it's a nightmare of economic tyranny not seen since the days the Soviet inspired WPA was created by FDR in the 30's.

Basically you'll have a bunch of leftwing whackjobs hired in for the specific purchase to cripple the financial industry, the banks, and wage war on Capital in the name of the People. Just like the NLRB is engaging in war in the name of the People. The EPA is engaging in war in the name of the People.

It's bureaucracy gone wild and Obama stands above and watches Rome burn because he turned our Government over to a bunch of academic nutjobs just like FDR did.

 

It's great to see America is very aligned with the TEA Party's call for fiscal responsibility.

 

I wasn't aware 66% of the Tea Party supported increasing taxes.

But if so, good on 'em.

 

If the Administration gonna insist on increase taxes I would suggest the Canadian model would suffice, 6 to 1 and spending has to be guaranteed, they have to come first, people just do not trust the Government period.

 

I don't trust the Govt. But I trust corporations and the rich less.

The rule should require a tax increase if there is a deficit. The best way to get govt to be careful on its spending is to make people feel it in their pockets.

That is the problem with the "starve the beast" strategy. People feel no pain from taxes and are content to just let the debt run up.

Hence the $14 trillion in debt we are in.

 

Holy Crap that makes no sense.

You are going to take away from the people, just so you can give it back to others.... and if you give more than you take.... THEN AN AUTHORITATIVE GOVERNMENT WILL TAKE EVEN MORE?????

This is as stupid as it gets folks. Their answer for over spending is to just take more.

When exactly does a liberal cut entitlement programs?

When Reagan cut welfare and went with the Welfare Reform act it was a boom for the economy.... Liberals just never learn.

 

No.

You take more in taxes so you don't run up so much debt.

Deficits = Revenues - spending.

So many lack basic understanding of how Govt budgets work.

 

You raise taxes more people with money move elsewhere so. Meanwhile, those taking are stuck here with their hands out.

Raise taxes = lowered Revenues and increased deficits.
For example http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/general-electric-paid-federal-taxes-2010/story?id=13224558

 

Didn't happen in the 90s with the Clinton tax increase.

You cut taxes and you get more idle wealth.

You think? Who told you that? Rush? Sean?

Let's look at the last tax increase in 1993:

year - Revenues - deficit/surplus
1992 1091.3 -340.4
1993 1154.4 -300.4 <-Clinton tax increase
1994 1258.6 -258.8
1995 1351.8 -226.4
1996 1453.1 -174.0
1997 1579.3 -103.2
1998 1721.8 -29.9
1999 1827.5 1.9
2000 2025.2 86.4

I don't see lower revenues and increased deficits after that tax increase either.

Maybe you should consider getting a new source of information.

 

WRONG... it's like they never figured out simple logic and math. Liberals are too busy with their hands out instead of working hard.

Democrat Equation: Spending - Revenue < Budget

TEA Party Equation: Spending = Revenue = Budget (It's the adult thing to do)

We can't even get the Democrats to Agree on Balancing the Budget. They want to spend, spend, spend, tax, tax, tax.... they won't even considering cutting the ridiculous spending to reduce the burden on the Americans... nope.... just keep spending little a little teenage girl in Beverly Hills with her Daddy's credit card.

 

Your chart is messed up you forgot to include the tax column because it would be more appropriate to measure the deficit and revenues to actuall tax rates.

http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2003/08/the-historical-lessons-of-lower-tax-rates
For example

compare this with your chart and add a new column.

I like this chart

 

I think this poll speaks more to why Obama is caving:

http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog...21/poll-weakened-obama-would-lose-vote-today/

 

Oh, you think a huge majority are in favor of more taxes do you? Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
That was funny. You take some really untenable positions to support your messiah.
Have you ever been a moonie?

 

Hopefully hes starting to realize, America aint down with his commie crap.

 

He already knew that. He's just trying to reposition for a re-election bid. That sociopath will throw anybody on the planet under the bus as long as it's him that shines in the end.

 

What is stupid about Obamacare?

 

Dude, the founding fathers wanted socialism and big government. That's why they gave the Congress power to tax and spend to provide for the general welfare.

 

64% of those polled would rather see Congress and President Obama agree to a budget plan that includes a combination of spending cuts and tax increases on higher-income Americans and some businesses.

34% would rather see Congress and President Obama agree to a budget plan that only includes cuts in government spending

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2011/images/07/21/rel11b.pdf

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Dude, the Founders wanted neither Socialism nor big government. Government was limited in its power to tax back then, and the Founders did not interpret "general welfare" as you do. See my sig line for a tutorial.

Now, did you learn this in school, or do you just make stuff up ?

 

My chart is numbers from the CBO:
http://cbo.gov/ftpdocs/120xx/doc12039/HistoricalTables[1].pdf

It is their data that clearly proves the falseness of your statement: "Raise taxes = lowered Revenues and increased deficits. "

 

Well, at least we can start to understand why our Tea Party friends are so confused about the Govt. They continuously show us they just don't have a clue.

 

Some did, some didn't. The powers of Congress are ambiguous.

It still is, dude.

Many of them actually did, bro. But it doesn't matter, because the lawmakers didn't make the Constitution with the understanding it would interpreted according to the way the "founders" interpreted it.

My interpretation is as reasonable as yours and mine has prevailed, because that's what the people wanted.

 

The first poll they should have done is, do you know what Cut, Cap, and Balance is?

I'm much better educated than the average person and I would not call myself an expert on international finance or politics. I don't think the average person understands the downside of a balanced budget amendment. For example it makes total sense to borrow money and deficit spend during a recession. I would much rather see the US government borrow money at ridiculously low interest rates and keep teachers, policemen, and firefighters on the payroll than have mass layoffs of essential personnel during a recession.

Another example is one day there might really be a war we need to fight and we may have to finance it with bonds. Imagine if FDR said, sorry Britain and France we can't fight Hitler because we have no money. I think the world would be a very different place.

There is no point discussing things that are not practical solutions.

 

Except Congress was only allowed to tax the states, not individuals, and only at levels apportioned according to their population so they couldn't play favorites or tax wealthier states more than poor states. Not very conducive to redistribution.

 

How things are now bears no impact on the writings of the Founders. Your words indicated to me that you were grossly misinformed about the Founders. You still are.

I believe the answer is that "you make it up as you go".

OBTW, you do not hold a candle to me. Not even in your dreams.

And I wish your little sister well. You may not hold a candle to her either