A very simple and easy to understand explanation of why climate change is REAL.

That's right. And the odds are very high that AGW is real. I agree

 

Welcome to the final phase of the Denier Dance

"It's too late".

When that's shown to be false it will start over at the beginning

"There is no Global Warming"

Wash/Rinse/Repeat

 

Obviously you have no idea who I am or what I think. My commentary indicates that climate change is real, human activity has contributed and sped the process dramatically, and that we could halt worldwide greenhouse gas release right now but what we have already put out there will take at least 50 years to be truly felt. In essence....yes it IS too late, at this point humans should be preparing for the inevitable as best they can. Regardless it will simply not be sufficient as it really cannot be....fortunately I will be long dead when things get really bad. My kids however are pretty much screwed.

 

We already know it's real. What we have no idea about is when FL will be under water. They were already wrong once. No one knows what effect a few less planes flying will accomplish. We certainly have zero idea if spending trillions will slow down or effect climate change at all. Not a shred of proof. It's only guessing.


Still waiting for 5 major hurricanes to hit FL and destroy us every year like they told us over a decade ago. I already know that if it ever happens they will say, "see told ya!!!" They're about as smart as me saying the Same thing. They dont have a ducking clue.

 

sorry for duplicate reply; can't delete it.

 

There are lots of hurricanes. Most didn't just make landfall. But when they do you will come calling for help

 

This says it correctly. Except for the last paragraph which is 90% speculation.

 

I leave it to the climate scientists 90% say humans contribute?
The minute few on the other side are oil lackies or have degrees in English

 

Sorry buddy. They said FL would be getting hit by multiple major storms every season. Landfall. I've lived here for 1/2 my life. They barely know WTF they're talking about most of the time. THat was over a decade ago. They were so ducking wrong. Can we fire those geniuses. And no I won't call the scientists for help. They're about as accurate as a monkey tossing darts at a board. Guessing is more accurate than them.

And with my supplies and generator I can go quite a while. I'm not like those pathetic scmucks who you see begging for scraps after a day without power.

 

So, you are against the earth greening up from a very healthy, life giving gas? You love barren deserts do you? Humanity has always benefitted from the climate warming. It is the ice age cooling, which will happen again we should worry about, if you want to worry about climate.

Hopefully high co2 levels will keep the next ice age at bay, putting off the most destructive to human life climate change far far into the future.

But sooner or later, this scheme will be over, when the elites and the UN do not get their carbon taxes and they give up. See, the history of science is notable in that there was always serious debate and various studies on such issues. Einstein fought against the scientific consensus, and was eventually victorious. But on this issue, the consensus must not be questioned. Because it is political and not scientific. In this environment Einstein would have been a dumb, stupid, uneducated denier. As other men who moved knowledge forward. What is oddly missing is the lack of contrary opinions, and no grants available for contrary research. LOL. It isn't because there are not contrary ideas on this, it is because they are suppressed by a system, which has become politicized. If they do speak of, they get attacked, and even risk losing their jobs. No, there is nothing wrong with this picture. LOL

But even IF co2 is the only reason, and the earth's natural cycle has so little to do with it, it is too late to change it. Nothing we can do except, well, an all out effort at adding flora in a big way, worldwide, and stopping rain forest loses, even if it take a military to do it. But isn't it so strange there are no plans, and no talk of extraction is there? Ah, pulling back this curtain is very revealing. It looks like a scheme, to redistribute income, using a very clever, fear mongering ploy. There are just too many incoherences involved here, and it should make a critical thinker just a little bit suspicious. So, where are the critical thinkers, who will not ignore the incoherence? Not in your camp, that is for damn sure.

 

There is no logic to what you are saying here.

More CO2 will not improve plant life if there are water distribution problems - one of the most serious issues of climate change.

Warming in cold areas may be better for agriculture in those areas, but that doesn't help the billions living in climates that are already warm. That is, the multi-year drought that seriously exacerbated the problems in Syria, the horn of Africa, etc., are not solved by warming Canada or Siberia.

Einstein had TWO things going for him:
- he was right (and he could demonstrate that with evidence).

- he worked in the realm of science, not public opinion, political partisanship, or concern for personal wealth rather than truth. Thus, his entire realm was ready to accept contrarian thought when it was shown to be based on evidence.

Today, the realm of science DOES accept the progress made in climatology.

But, the realms of personal aggrandizement, political partisanship and popular hate for science are blocking sane policy decision making.

 

Sorry, you are wasting your time.
Climate change deniers are nearly all Trumpsters - meaning truth and facts are of no concern.
Science, facts? Who needs them. The con-man has said it is a hoax created by China.
The rest of the world gets it, but a significant minority in America denies reality and also denies evolution.
Wallowing in ignorance gave us this so-called president we have.

 

Anyone who thing that climate has been effected in any mjor way by an increase in atmospheric CO2 of 1 part per 10000 is engaging in politics not science.

 

Those who claim we are responsible for climate change have to prove their claim. Those who do not believe it do not have to prove Jack Squat. So far I have not seen any proof of causation.....try again.

 

95% of the world's experts say you are wrong [whatever it is you are trying to claim].

Holiday Inn must be making a fortune from righties these days.

 

Having a BS artist in the White House emboldens them....

 

I think Trump's Chinese conspiracy theory is really a Russian conspiracy.

 

Human beings always crack me up with how important we think we are.

There was a chart posted that showed CO2 levels going back thousands of years that has been largely ignored. Our Time horizon on this earth is so insignificant, we look at changes to our world during our EXTREMELY small stay on it and somehow draw massive sweeping conclusions. Its hilarious. We are insignificant in the grand scheme of things, CO2 has been many multiples higher than it currently is and the earth and life still made it.

Is the climate changing? Always. Like everything else it is constantly evolving and shifting. Are we having any sort of significant impact on that? I doubt it...the earth has proven it has mechanisms to deal with imbalances much greater than the ones currently being experienced. Will some people die? Sure. Will some people need to relocate? Yep. Thats life.

 

Please state your logic - or, better yet, cite something.

 

Study this graph closely, so you don't embarrass yourself further.

 

See above chart.

 

No they don't. They say it's getting warmer. There is no consensus as to why.

 

I don't see "massive sweeping conclusions". I see actual science being done, bringing together everything from nuclear physics to chemistry to biology.

Specifically:
https://www.skepticalscience.com/co2-higher-in-past.htm

"Relocate" isn't a solution today. Syrians need to relocate. Bangladeshis need to relocate. Somalis need to relocate. Eritreans need to relocate. But, we don't like that and more to block it - as do other nations.

 

There will be and always has been climate change. What we are talking about here in man made global warming, which hasnt happened in about 20 years now. Look at the real facts, not the political BS put out by loons like Gore.

 

The core of global warming deniers are science dismissers. There is no argument that you can present that will change their minds as their minds do not allow for the possibility of man caused global warming. On the upside, recent polls have shown that the core of global warning deniers constitutes only about 10% of the population and shrinking.