A very simple and easy to understand explanation of why climate change is REAL.

The problem is the CO2 warmed up the oceans and planet just enough for CH4 Methane Gel which exists at the bottom of all the oceans and Arctic lakes and within permafrost to escape as CH4 GAS!!

CH4 Gas holds heat in Earth's atmosphere 72 TIMES GREATER THAN CO2!!!!

We are passed a threshold.

NOTHING we can do will stop what is to come.

The Planet is a self correcting system so eventually it will all balance out.

But an Ice Age is ALWAYS the result of runaway temps.

AA

 

Every spot on earth receives the greatest amount of incoming radiation (What creates heat on the earth.) at solar noon. Yet the hottest part of the day occurs around 5 o'clock in the afternoon. How is this possible?

By the way, it is one part in one million, thus the term ppm, not one in ten thousand as you have posted.

 

I've been convinced. We need to destroy everything that creates carbon dioxide immediately.

 

It's too late.

We already passed the threshold.

NOTHING can stop what is coming.

CH4 is bubbling up from every ocean and sea and Arctic lake and Permafrost.

It cannot be stopped at this point.

AA

 

Never too late. Destroy every car, every power plant, every generator, every human. All to save the human race from extinction.

 

Would not stop it.

Go to the U.S. Military and Navy websites and see their contingency plans for total evacuation of all low laying Pacific Island Nations.

After that....war in India and Bangladesh.....oh yeah...we will be there.

It cannot be stopped.

AA

 

Lower population, especially in the 3rd world is a good thing. They can't support themselves anyways.

 

I never said lowering pollution or any warming emissions is worthless.

I am just saying we are too late to stop runaway global warming.

AA

 

Being a scientific minded person I looked up into why people like you are so dismissive of something that you apparently proudly ignorant of. Turns out it would be a waste of my time to try to convince you otherwise as your mind will not allow evidence that does not conform with your ideology. I explained this all in a previous thread about how freethinkers are superior to conservative Christians where you willingly, although inadvertently, appeared as one of the examples that helped illustrate my point.

 

I still disagree. Sounds to me like we just need a few more trees.

Just think of how much less the globe wpul d be warmed if you got rid of your house, car, and all electronics. That's a significant carbon footprint. Your home being the bigger contributer.

 

Yeah. Ok.

So, what would you accept as proof?

I mean, science is in unison, projecting one fundamental direction here, and you want something else.

So, I think you need to give some clues as to what it is that you would accept.

 

Unfortunately they are in the government

 

As noted...we have reached the last stanza of the Denier Dance.

We are in the "It's too late" phase.

And when this is proven to be wrong we simply go back to the beginning..

"There is no Global Warming"

Lather rinse repeat

 

This is laughably ignorant. Go check your numbers 1 part per million would be even less consequential than 1 part per 10,000. As for your other question. There is far more to it than you think. But suffice to say it vastly more to do with the sun is millions of degrees hotter than the earth, various substance scattered about the earth heat at different rates, and not all light energy that strikes the earth converts immediately to heat energy. And those are all just part of the picture.

 

Its really funny when anyone posts an opinion that flies in the face of the big lie about global warming, a ton of left wingers pile in. They have put so much time and money in this big lie, they just cant stand seeing it attacked with facts.

 

Hectoring, sermonizing self-righteous hypocritical scum:

Obama Uses Private Jet, 14 Car Convoy to Get to 'Climate' Speech...

 

Science only describes the climate is changing. The question of how much humans affect it is not written in stone. The earth has had ice ages and other climate issues in the past. This is a normal cycle.

 

Oh I see. You cannot defend your "faith". That is ok, I do not enjoy debating religious folks.

 

Here is some encouraging news.

Graphene screens can make large scale desalination of ocean water
much less expensive.


Graphene sieves and low cost desalination of ocean water.

....
If the Carl Cantrell theory on climate stabilization is one of the best ones out there
at this time then graphene screens can make his idea
that much easier to accomplish.

The fact that one nation on earth has experienced cooling in their climate since 1950.... and since that nation pretty much led the world in a combination of both planting trees and in large scale desalination of ocean water for agriculture, reforestation projects as well as for towns experiencing shortages of water indicates that Mr. Cantrell's theory has potential.

 

We need to find a new way to finance large scale desalination of ocean water for agriculture, reforestation as well as to raise the water table in nations where the water table is dropping.

The same measures that could greatly increase the production of food...... could also decrease the need to build sea walls, dikes and other ways to protect cities from the probable collapse of the West Antarctic Ice Sheet and the land based Greenland Ice Pack.

This is helpful background information that must be understood if we are to alter Federal Reserve Policy in such a way as to finance this:

Best explanation for Weimar Republic Inflation I ever read....

Here is one possible side effect to financing
what needs to be done to effectively address climate change,
(especially the collapse of the W.A.I.S.)

Could a real estate boom plus better Fed policy pay off USA national debt?

 

I really like how you explained this over in this other topic:

Is this analysis of the probable long term effects of climate change logical?

I do still have some hope though.... I am convinced that
there is one option that can work:

The Sahara Forest Project...and saving New Orleans and Florida from rising oceans!

Combine this already proven idea with low cost desalination through
grapheme screens and I think that we do have some reason for a bit of
hope?

 

Near death experiencer Howard Storm was shown what seemed to be
an unusually low tech future.

I am wondering if the technology was still there... but was less
visible than it is at this time???


http://www.near-death.com/experiences/notable/howard-storm.html#a04

 

CO2 and temperature were rising prior to fossil fuels. The whole term "Malthusian" is related to what was going on prior to fossil fuels. Fossil fuels saved civilization from complete deforestation, which by the way, was releasing a crap ton CO2 all on its own. If fossil fuels are so horrible, why do the AGW folks never want us to go back to whale oil and cooking on open fire if that was so much better for the planet?

 

You know I wish you were right but unfortunately you are not.

Because of what I am and do I am well aware of the multitudes of Networked Super Computers running 24/7 as well as all the data collected by the CDIAC or Carbon Dioxide Information Analysis Center which is part of the DOE's or U.S. Department of Energy's Office of Science....you know.....the DOE!!!??? The DOE as being the same nice people who provide WEAPONS GRADE URANIUM AND PLUTONIUM to the U.S. MILITARY!!??

Anyways......The CDIAC is the ONLY UNBIASED AND VIABLE GROUP that is used by THE U.S. MILITARY to use the CDIAC data to enter that information into the Pentagons and U.S. Cyber Command and U.S. Space Commands NETWORKED SUPER COMPUTERS as well as the new U.S. Military QUANTUM COMPUTERS in order for these networked systems to develop U.S. MILITARY CONTINGENCY PLANS to deal with such things as how the U.S. Navy will be and THEY ALREADY ARE DOING THIS.....evacuating ENTIRE PACIFIC ISLAND NATIONS POPULATIONS to such other nations as AUSTRALIA and you can ask any Aussie Member here as they KNOW this is going on right now.....as these Island Nations in the Pacific many that have had human populations living on them for well over 50,000 YEARS are being evacuated by the U.S. Military and Navy as the Sea Levels have risen so high due to Greenland and Polar Ice Melt that the islands are no longer habitable as they are either being submerged by the rising sea levels or even small storm systems are flooding the entire islands with salt water killing any and all food crops planted there.

This is the CDIAC website.......http://cdiac.ornl.gov/

Carbon Dioxide Information Analysis Center
The Carbon Dioxide Information Analysis Center (CDIAC), located at the U.S. Department of Energy's (DOE) Oak Ridge National Laboratory (ORNL), is the primary climate change data and information analysis center for DOE. CDIAC is supported by DOE's Climate and Environmental Sciences Division within the Office of Biological and Environmental Research (BER).

Now at the TOP of the CDIAC's website is a graph of CO2 level increases and if you wait about 10 seconds that Graph changes into another and then another and then another etc graph.

Look......I lead a Team of the very best the U.S. Military has to offer and sometimes I have Members who are British and Aussie SAS and the thing is all of us......whether we be members of the U.S. Military or a member of a Civilian Intelligence Agency such as myself or a member of the Aussie or British Military the fact is this.......

WE ALL KNOW GLOBAL WARMING IS NOT ONLY REAL BUT WE ARE DEALING WITH IT;S EFFECTS RIGHT NOW!!!!

The U.S. Military is VERY CONCERNED about the eventual break out of war, famine, disease and rioting over resources as people all along the BAY OF BENGAL which includes such nations as India, Bangladesh, etc....where 100's of Millions of people live right along the shoreline many who live in huts built on stilts and submerged wooden posts sunk into the underwater seafloor will begin moving inland as the rising sea levels along with more and more powerful Cyclones will OBLITERATE these areas causing the largest mass relocation of human being in HISTORY and when this happens AND IT WILL......the U.S. Military will have to be there in order to stop the violence of people displacing other people already living more inland as well as the massive wars that will begin over food and other resources.

You are posting to a man who is in the loop and KNOWS what is coming.

You are posting to me like a child with your head buried in the sand.

AA